The New Pope - A Discussion with Rose777 and Wayne McRoy

[00:01:30] Welcome to the show. This is the Rose777 channel. I am so happy to be back after my channel was recently reinstated after a four-year hiatus. And I am here tonight with my good friend, Wayne McRoy. Welcome to the show and welcome back on my main channel, Wayne. It's great to be here with you. Hey, Rose. Welcome back to YouTube. It's wonderful that they're actually allowing things nowadays, right?

[00:02:00] It's like a dream come true, but I am absolutely prepared for them to take it away anytime they want. I did say when they were giving me the channel back that I would conform to the community guidelines because I have learned that it's in my best interest to keep the lines of communication open with the people and then I can always drive them away to other platforms that will allow people to speak even more than we can hear.

[00:02:30] you got to play by the rules. You got to play by by the rules to a certain degree with this stuff, but certainly they have eased up a lot of their standards on YouTube I've noticed that in recent months as well. It seems to me that they've they've gotten a lot better with actually what they'll allow you to say on there. So it's good. I don't know exactly what changed there, but maybe it's the fear of this new presidential administration that's in place. I don't know.

[00:02:59] I can't speak to that. But I have noticed some differences, and it has been for the better. Yeah, it makes sense to me that the social engineers would allow there to be ebbs and flows just to keep people on their toes, get hopped up on the hopium, and then drag them into oblivion and despair. And then right when they're starting to get so – when they can't take it anymore,

[00:03:26] then you give them a little bit more, and then they'll be that much easier to control when you offer them something when they're in that despair. And then you give it back to them, take it away, give it back to them, take it away. I just feel like that's a really good tactic. Yeah, that sounds like one of the old classic torture tactics, doesn't it? That's exactly how they do that kind of stuff. It's almost like gaslighting in a way just to keep you in that frame of mind where you think, okay, it's better now.

[00:03:55] It's that Stockholm Syndrome thing. They keep you there, but at the same token, they're controlling what you're doing by every now and again they smack you down as far as the standards and stuff go with that. So I don't know. Is it a trap? Whether it's a trap or not, we fully need to take advantage of it while we still can. And that's the whole point here. It is the largest platform in the world for communicating with people, so we need to utilize it while we still can.

[00:04:23] And we've seen, we've had a taste of what it's like to not have that platform. So we will still continue on, but certainly it does make it a lot easier to reach minds and hearts out there when you can use the biggest tool in the world to do so. Indeed, indeed. And we are here tonight to talk about the new Pope. I'm so excited to talk about the new Pope with you, but I really am using it as an excuse to get you onto my channel,

[00:04:52] bring you here in front of my people for you to say very, very smart, well-researched things. I love your pontification, and this is just a great opportunity for me to bring you on for this current event. But it is a huge, I mean, just when I was putting up on the screen during my little opening music, this is the 267th Pope. So they've been doing this for so long,

[00:05:16] and it seems that this Catholic Church thing and this Pope thing has been able to go on way longer than any country ever has been able to. Haven't we seen that countries can only last like 200 years? But this has been going on for so long. What do you have to say about that, the difference between the Catholic Church lasting so long and countries just can't keep it together? Well, it's just part and parcel of the control mechanisms that they have in place.

[00:05:45] But here's the bonus, Rose. Not only do you get all of my smart pontification, but you get all the stupid that goes with it, too. That's the bonus of having me on it late at night like this. So it all works out good. That's why we're friends. Yeah, we got to have fun with it, too. But certainly we can see the new Pope that they've just elected. There's just so many things that I can talk about in depth about this, and we'll talk about it here.

[00:06:12] But also tomorrow I'm recording Synchro Mystic episode number 11 with my good friend Richard Willett, and we'll be breaking down some more of that there, too. He's also a pretty thorough researcher in these things, so it'll be good to hear what he has to say. But I can certainly put on the table some of what I've come to realize already in the short time that we've had to digest this information. But the Catholic Church in and of itself is actually the Roman Empire has been transformed into the Vatican,

[00:06:41] and we realize that. But here's the thing. It looks like what I've been seeing out there in the ether is all this Synchro Mystic metadata, as I like to call it, that is pointing to the fall of the old Roman Empire and the arisal of a new Roman Empire. And I think that it has now been firmly established that America represents that new Roman Empire. So there's a lot really to digest with all of this.

[00:07:09] So certainly, where do we begin with this election of a new pope? I really haven't seen anything like this in my lifetime. I've never seen the televised nature of all of it and how they've really essentially puffed this whole thing up into this major event like they never had before, to the point where we're seeing this stuff for the first time on international television.

[00:07:34] Like, I don't remember this happening when they installed the last pope or the previous one, Pope Benedict, prior to that. I don't remember this being all televised and them talking about the secret conclave and all of these things. And they go into this room and they lock themselves in with no outside communication. And the only way you know what's going on is the smoke come out the chimney.

[00:07:56] And they had to retrofit the chapel there so that they had this furnace in there that they could burn whatever it is they burned to get the black smoke and the white smoke. I've never seen anything like it. But just the simple fact that they have this ritual around the whole thing, it should really tell you something right there. And we'll talk a little bit about some of the things, the claims that have been made, some of the prophecies about the final pope, Petrus Romanus, and things like that.

[00:08:25] Also in connection to this, because there's a lot that's there to really take apart. Yes, there's a lot to take apart, Wade. And that's what I'm here for as the host. I am here to guide the conversation so that I can extract the information out of you in the order that I perceive will be enjoyable for the audience. Because you are so jam-packed with information. Everybody knows that here on my channel, we can get silly and say stupid things.

[00:08:54] And we don't take ourselves too seriously. As long as everybody knows that then Wayne and I go in our other directions and we do very serious things. Like my work with Crow Triple Seven and his work with Richard Willett. In fact, today on Crow Triple Seven Radio we recorded, and this will be released next week, a great episode with Michael Hoffman. Who's my favorite Catholic researcher who covers revisionist history. And I don't think that we would even know who he was or be connected to him if it weren't for people like you, Wayne.

[00:09:22] I think it was through Alana Freeland that we made the original connection with Michael Hoffman. And we just adore his writing. And he's been talking about the esoteric knowledge and studying that we hold so dear. And one thing that he was saying, and he said so much great stuff that I just can't even do it justice. I'll just wait for everyone to listen to that episode when it comes out.

[00:09:47] But the one thing I will say was in the end, Jason asked him, like, what's your outlook for everything? And even with all of the incriminating things he said about what has occurred, it is so interesting that despite everything that Michael Hoffman knows, he loves God, Jesus, and Catholicism so much. He's a real Catholic. He's just disgusted by atrocities that have occurred within it.

[00:10:15] But he still has a deep reverence for the religion itself. And so I was surprised, but pleasantly surprised. And it made me feel happy. And I'm going to throw it back to you after this. When he said, you know what? I am full of optimism. I don't want to assume that someone's going to be a pawn for the new world order. So let's just pray for him. And maybe he's, you know, in so many words, he said it way more eloquently than I am. But maybe he's a good guy and he could be a good guy.

[00:10:43] For me, I'm a little bit more cynical at times. And through my research so far, it just seems like he could kind of be considered a blank slate where it can go either way. And he could be turned into a pawn for the new world order. And we'll go into that more. But I'm going to throw it back at you. What do you think about Michael Hoffman's optimism and praying for him that he won't be a pawn for the new world order like I think he could be?

[00:11:07] Well, I just got to say one of the pleasures of actually doing this kind of a thing is we have the privilege of standing on the shoulders of giants. And Michael Hoffman is one of those giants. He's a gentleman I respect very much. And his work has been very foundational in many of the things that I do and the things that I discuss and talk about.

[00:11:27] And it was actually through our mutual friend, Alana Freeland, that I was able to make the connection to you guys, to Crow Triple Seven with Michael Hoffman and get him back on the air after having disappeared actually into the background pretty quietly for decades now. And it's certainly it's been my pleasure to be able to be a part of that. It really has. So it is an honor and a privilege to stand upon the shoulders of giants like that.

[00:11:56] So I also agree with Michael. I mean, let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I've seen so many things happen that are unexpected in recent months where it appears things are turning for the good. And I do have that cynical part of me that is like, well, how are they going to play this? How are these controllers, these dark occultists who run things in this world going on this and twist this? And time will tell. We'll just have to see.

[00:12:24] But there are a lot of esoteric tells out there in the ether about this guy. And I don't quite know what to make of it. But I do have an unction that things aren't playing out exactly how the control structure of this world wants them to with this. I don't think it was ever intended that there should be an American pope, first of all. And second of all, I don't think it was ever intended to have many of the things happening in this world that are happening right now.

[00:12:54] I think they kind of got a little too arrogant and were pushing too hard with things. And now the people are waking up to the detriment of those controllers of this world, those dark occultists who run things and their minions, the technocrats that run around here trying to get all these agendas in place. I think they push too hard, too fast. And people are waking up despite their best efforts to cut off this awakening that's going on.

[00:13:23] It's working in reverse against them. And I think we're seeing a turning back to the faith here in Western culture that is long overdue. And of course, this falls back into some of the cycles of history we could look at. It's something called the fourth turning. And we're going through that fourth turning right now where eventually a society or a culture, every four generations or so, they get to the point where it begins to take on the form of a type of a societal collapse of sorts.

[00:13:52] And then people get back to the foundations of what it is to be human and get back to the core of morality and all of those things that are so important to us and back to those core tenets of civilization itself, the core unit of civilization, the family unit, and get back to those traditional values. And then things take a turn for the better. And we might be seeing some of that. We might be seeing that as a symptom of what's going on.

[00:14:17] But certainly, you still have these weirdo, evil, bad guy, billionaires and stuff out there plotting and planning against the masses. And they still will try to leverage everything that they can in their directions they want. And how do they do this? One of the ways they do this is through utilizing these mythological archetypes and this synchromyistic metadata, as I like to call it, to bring... Ooh, ooh, ooh, let me jump in really quick. Let me jump in really quick.

[00:14:47] I just realized that Pope Leo, that is an astrological sign. It is an archetype. You probably already thought of that, but I just wanted people to know I thought of it without you. Okay, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, we're going to get there. There's a lot at play here. But that is one of the tools that they use to affect the unconscious mind of the masses. It's a little something I call synchromyistic metadata because I can't find a better term for it yet.

[00:15:14] But what this is, is this is the seemingly disconnected little bits of information that are kind of out there in the ether, for lack of a better term, that float around out there in the background, in the media, that are very subtle. And they steer your mind in a direction that you don't realize. Now, what am I talking about with this? My friend Richard and I have been going on about this for the past several episodes of Synchromyistic that we do.

[00:15:40] By the way, if people are unaware, we just launched this podcast like the end of December. And it's growing exponentially very quickly because we discuss a lot of this and there's nobody else discussing it out there. So what we've noticed and we've been talking about is there are certain tropes out there that show up in the media. And most people don't recognize them for what they are because they're all interconnected, whether they seem like it or not.

[00:16:08] So one of the things that I picked up on, you remember a few weeks back, one of the big main news stories that was going around that this biotech company in Texas, they brought back from extinction the dire wolf. You remember that, Rose? Yeah, and it's so funny because nobody was really talking about dire wolves or caring about dire wolves. But then Game of Thrones made it popular.

[00:16:32] And all of a sudden after that, you know, mind virus was injected into the aggregate consciousness, they decide to go ahead and bring that into existence. Right. Well, here's the thing. Here's the part of the story nobody else picked up on. You remember what the name was of those twin dire wolves that they genetically engineered back into existence? Oh, oh, Romulus and Remus, like the Rome, the mythological figures that supposedly started Rome.

[00:16:59] And by the way, ha ha ha, in my opinion, to the fact that the beginning of Rome is cited as a mythological story. How come we don't actually know how it started? Absolutely. That's what this was all about. So that introduced the idea into the big picture.

[00:17:15] Now, prior to that, I was doing work where I was looking at this connection between Petrus Romanus, Elon Musk, and of all things, Rosemary, and all kinds of weird synchronistic stuff began to happen that put those dots together for me. And sure enough, this story comes out about these dire wolves. Well, the wolf is a symbol of Rome, first and foremost. If you don't know that, now you do. So this was about the story of Romulus and Remus and the foundation of Rome.

[00:17:45] So you look around and you see all of these stories about the foundation of Rome out there and things like Romulus and Remus being out there. So I recognized immediately what this is, is this is a call for the arisal of a new Roman Empire and a new Caesar in charge of that.

[00:18:08] And I've been talking about this for several months now because of some of the encoding that happened at the very beginning of the year with those terror plots that went down there in New Orleans. First of all, the guy that plowed his truck through the crowd of people with an ISIS flag on the back of it and then simultaneously somewhere in Vegas in front of Trump Tower, somebody lit one of Elon Musk's Tesla trucks on fire in front of that. Well, I connected all the dots with that.

[00:18:37] Of course, this event with the guy in New Orleans happened in front of Caesar's Superdome, Caesar. So it's about the installation of a new Caesar. And of course, Trump was the first sitting president to attend an event at the Caesar's Superdome there at the Super Bowl that earlier this year.

[00:18:56] And of course, you could go back and look at all of the different events surrounding that and realize how much of this was leveraging these archetypes in certain directions. So the dots began to click for me when I saw that story about dire wolves. And this is not something people piece together. Yes, people were talking about it. But the dire wolf is the symbol of Rome. And then as the big kicker for all of it, they named the wolves Romulus and Remus.

[00:19:26] And then, of course, they also later genetically engineered a younger sibling, a younger sister for those wolves. And I can't remember the name, but it's straight out of Game of Thrones. It was the chick from Game of Thrones that they named that one actor. So we have this connection. First of all, they're connecting a fictional property to a real world event here. And they're showing us the foundations of Rome in mythology in a similar type fashion.

[00:19:51] So it's about bringing about this new arisal of a Roman Empire. So I noticed that. And Richard and I did an episode on that. And then a couple days later, a story comes out on Inside Edition. I actually have this video. I don't know if I could actually share it on screen here. But it might be interesting to put up there for people. Let me see if I can do that. Is it a file or is it something you can bring up in a tab? Let me see if I can bring it up in a tab here.

[00:20:21] Sometimes you can take a file from your computer and drag it into a tab and then save the tab. Yeah, let me see if I could share my screen first of all here. Let's go over here. And here's layout. And let me share screen. What did you do? I don't know if this was working. Something happened. Something strange has happened.

[00:20:49] You want to, like, try that again by pressing present and then share screen and then click. Present. And share screen. And select the screen to share. Select tab to share. Let me see. Where are you at? That window. And this one. Let's see. Can I share this window? Bear with me, folks. Let's do entire screen. No. Window.

[00:21:19] I could do this. All right. So share. Why aren't you working? Okay. It could be my fault that we're using some kind of strange media presentation. Hold on. Open system settings. Here we go. Open system set. Okay. Here. Now it's coming up. I might be able to actually share. No. Why aren't you working? Hmm. Okay.

[00:21:49] Maybe I could send you the file. Okay. Yeah. Send me the file and I'll try to share it. Or we could even just listen to the audio. We could listen to the audio. I could get the audio to play. Okay. Let's do that. All right. Let me hit cancel here and I'll just play the audio here. Let's see. I hope it comes through the speakers. Are you sure it will come through the speakers? Are you going to hold it up? Let's try it. Okay. Is Elon Musk planning to father a generation of super babies?

[00:22:14] According to his newest baby mama, Ashley St. Clair, the world's richest man, dreams of having enough children to save civilization. Ashley St. Clair is speaking out today, revealing the results of a paternity test that she says proves with 99.99% certainty that Musk is the father of her seven-month-old son. Just two weeks ago, Musk wrote, I don't know if the child is mine or not.

[00:22:42] Here he is, Ashley says, in a New York hospital holding baby Romulus right after he was born. Musk has had at least 14 children with four women, 10 boys and four girls. Hey. His four-year-old little X is the most visible. They go everywhere together, including the UFC event last weekend. And get this.

[00:23:06] According to the Wall Street Journal, multiple sources said they believe the true number of Musk's children is much higher. And he wants more. Oh, he did. Ashley said that Musk suggested they use surrogates to make more babies faster, to reach legion level before the apocalypse. She claims he solicits women to have his babies on his social media app X. Oh, my gosh. How much longer is this? I have to comment. He wants no part of his harem drama.

[00:23:36] Musk talked about his love for baby making at a recent conference in Saudi Arabia. I know you've been doing your part to maintain the birth rate in the U.S. Yes, I am. I do have a lot of kids. And I encourage others to have lots of kids. We reached out to Elon Musk for comment, but did not hear back. He sure does like having babies. Well, here's the thing. Did you catch the name of his newest baby? Yeah, the 14th baby.

[00:24:06] Yeah, the 14th baby is Romulus, just like the 14th Pope right now. So he had the baby right as the 14th baby, and he's naming it a Roman name. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. There you go. So, I mean, the connections are like this all day long. And this is an example of what I call synchromystic metadata. What's the chances? All of a sudden, with no interest, a genetic engineering firm is going to come out, and they're going to re-engineer the dire wolf.

[00:24:35] Of all the choices they had, they were talking about maybe bringing back the woolly mammoth, and they have all the potential to do all these different things. They could bring back all these different animals. They choose the dire wolf. Why is that? And then all of a sudden, the name Romulus and Remus pops up, and then it turns up in the media again. Here, Elon Musk's 14th kid, now named Romulus. That's not a common name. Let's put it that way.

[00:25:01] Especially from a guy who likes to name their children, like, money sign, zero AXYZ. Now, all of a sudden, he wants to actually pick a normal name. Right, and Psycho Mechanicus, HCX, or whatever. I don't know. The guy's weird. Let's put it that way. At any rate, he's become synonymous with American empire now because of his position with DOG, with that DOG agency that's been set up in his closeness to Donald Trump.

[00:25:30] So now this guy is out there in the limelight again, and we have this other connection. So this is all pointing in the direction of the arisal of a new Roman empire, and in no uncertain terms, it was established very clearly today that America is the new Roman empire with the election of this new pope. The American pope who took the moniker Leo XIV. Leo, representing the lion.

[00:25:57] And, of course, there's more to it than that. Because if you look up, actually, what is the whole thing inherent with the connection between the lion and the wolf? Go ahead and Google that, Rose. I want you to Google the symbology of the lion combined with the wolf. May I use ChatGPT instead of Google? Certainly. Let's see what ChatGPT has to say. The symbolic connection.

[00:26:28] Between the lion and the wolf. And everyone, I can't say the words lion and wolf without remembering that one of the most famous and convincing Mandela effects has to do with the lion and the lamb, which is now the lion and the wolf. But I digress. Let's bring this up on the screen so that everyone can see what I was shown when I asked this question. Right. That's all out there on purpose. So here we have the connection here.

[00:26:55] The lion, symbol of solar power and sovereignty. The wolf, the symbol of lunar power and wild instinct. This is the unification of opposites once again that's being symbolized here. So it has. How did you word that question exactly? It symbolizes loyalty and it symbolizes divine authority and spiritual awakening. Let's see what else it says.

[00:27:22] What's the symbolic connection between the lion and the wolf when combined? Type when combined and see. And we'll see what it comes up with in real time here. When the lion and the wolf combined symbolically, they represent the integration of opposites, just like I said, into a powerful and balanced archetype.

[00:27:46] This union often reflects a higher state of being where the solar force of the lion and the lunar force of the wolf work in harmony. Here's a deeper look at what they represent when combined. The lion plus the wolf is the sovereign mystic or warrior sage. The lion brings strength, leadership and nobility. The wolf brings intuition, strategy and survival together to form a complete leader. One who rules wisely with both courage and foresight, instinct and discernment.

[00:28:14] So it's about our outer power and inner depth, it says here. So once again, it's the union of opposites. This represents the alchemical wedding between church and state. Let's put it that way. So America is going to become the new Roman Empire, the new holy Roman Empire. And we see all of the push of this Trump administration with all of these things back towards. Well, let's face it, Christian fundamental morals and values.

[00:28:42] We see a lot of that being pushed right now in America, don't we? And all of this, I think, might be a setup for a slippery slope, honestly, when it comes down to it. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, I think I sincerely think we are going through this fourth turning type event that I alluded to earlier. And maybe people are being drawn back toward a spiritual path from where they were.

[00:29:05] And we are certainly going through this phase in the cycles of time where we're seeing this great awakening going on. And they're doing everything in their power to stifle this. So what's going on here is it would appear to me this is an alchemical wedding of sorts combining church and state together. And it's about porting over the authority of the religious sector from the Vatican, from Rome into America.

[00:29:33] And, of course, you know about the three city states, the three sovereign city states. Right, Rose? We have the city of London for the finance, the city of Washington, D.C. for the military and executive arm of things and the Vatican as the spiritual center. Well, it's bringing the spiritual center over to America. And a lot of this actually relates back to something that was revealed by Father Malachi Martin in the 1996 book he wrote called Windswept House,

[00:29:59] which is said to be a nonfiction novel that he wrote. And he talked about how in on June 29th, 1963, in the Vatican and simultaneously at a Masonic lodge in South Carolina, they held a massive ritual working where they installed Lucifer into the head of the Vatican. So I'm not the one making this up or saying this.

[00:30:28] This is not conjecture. He actually wrote about this and he claims it's a nonfiction novel that he wrote. It's called Windswept House, Malachi Martin, 1996. It was published. You could go look that up. So we have these connections all day long with this stuff. So it's claimed that the Vatican in its recent iterations is actually representing Lucifer. It's a Luciferian organization. And that's what people missed the point on.

[00:30:58] It's kind of installed itself as a perfect parasite within the Catholic Church. I'll go back to the Captain America movie with Hydra once again. It installed itself as a perfect parasite from within and they didn't recognize it. And certainly we've seen the harms coming about from that. And we see the symptoms of that overall in the church scandals and everything that went on. So having all of those connections and stuff in place, we realize there's something else going on here.

[00:31:28] And now we're seeing reflections of that later on. Now, years later, decades later, we're talking, what has it been? 62 years. It'll be 62 years later that we're seeing a physical representation of this, of this transfer of power between the Vatican and America. And, of course, this represents a lot of other things. And we could take apart the symbolism and stuff all day long with all of this. It depends just how deep we want to go.

[00:31:57] But there's many more points I want to make about this rather than just focus on that one little reference point here. Yeah. Well, just really quick to just top off the part about the America becoming the new Rome and then falling. You would think that being the first American pope, he would have mentioned it in his speech. And he did all the things that he was supposed to do, like say nice things about the previous pope.

[00:32:25] And it seems like he was trying to be a messenger of peace. And he spoke in multiple languages addressing the country where he was previously doing this Catholic thing in South America. But he didn't say anything about being the first American pope, almost like he didn't want to draw attention to it. Do you think that was by design or he was just trying to be respectful because now he's stepping into a global position and didn't want to make it about America?

[00:32:51] What's your take on that opening speech without the English? Well, I think it's all part of the tradition and all of these things are steeped in tradition and ritual. So certainly they open up all the time with this in the Latin where they they make the statement that there's now a new pope. It's like the installation of a new pope. It all seems to go according to the old ritual and the old tradition.

[00:33:18] So certainly I think he was just doing what's expected first and foremost. And we'll see. I mean, time will tell how this all shapes out. But he is Leo the 14th. And there's just so many things to take apart with that, because like I said, now you have the wolf that represents Rome along with the lion, which represents the lion of the tribe of Judah. So you have the church and the state once again being combined here in this connection.

[00:33:46] And you'll notice that the vestment he wore, and this is traditional for the installation of a new pope, was a red vestment. And there's some importance to this and there's importance to the name Leo. This is the red lion. And if you're not familiar with alchemy, the red lion is another important idea that goes along with this concept that this is the alchemical wedding or alchemical marriage of church and state.

[00:34:12] So you want to use your little search tools there again, Rose, and look up what does the red lion mean in alchemy? And we can put this on the screen for the good people so they know what exactly I'm talking about here. Yes. Let me open up a new tab. What does the red lion mean in alchemy? All right. Let's bring this up so you can see here.

[00:34:43] The final stage of the magnum opus, otherwise known as the great work, also representing the rubido phase, which is part of the alchemical process after Negrido, Albedo, and Citrinitas. Yes. So, yeah, they're announcing the completion of the magnum opus, the great work. And this is the alchemical wedding. It's the alchemical marriage of church and state finally put together.

[00:35:11] And this will trigger a lot of those, what do you call it, those people that were harping about the 2025 thing from the Heritage Foundation that Trump was going after, that agenda 2025 or whatever it is that the liberals were all crying about in the beginning. Well, this should trigger them all the more because that's essentially what's being announced here. The red lion is both a stage and a state of being, it says, symbolizing transmutation, mastery, and illumination.

[00:35:39] It's the alchemist's ultimate goal to achieve balance between material and spiritual realms. So this is installing a new empire, the new Rome, the improved Rome, the perfected Rome, if you want to get down to the alchemical language being imbued here. But that's what this pope represents. That's why he's Leo XIV. And of course, this also speaks to another symbolic type of an alchemical wedding.

[00:36:09] It's the merging, the unification of opposites of the different secret society groups. Now, what do I mean by this? Well, largely, you will associate the Catholic Church with the Jesuits. And the former pope was a Jesuit. And you'll notice this is Leo. That was against the rules. They broke their own rules and never even had an explanation for it. They just did it. Absolutely. But this was always a known thing. You've always had Jesuit influence.

[00:36:37] And there is a Jesuit pope that's called the Black Pope as well that has a lot of sway with the Vatican and with all of this. But this is about the unification of the Jesuits and the Freemasons. 14 is a sacred number to the Freemasons. It represents the lost word of Freemasonry. It's the missing piece of Osiris. It's the missing generative force, the lost word.

[00:37:00] So when you understand the symbols right there in your face and you see it's about the union, unification, the union of opposites, it's this chemical wedding idea bringing about a new Roman Empire, a holy Roman Empire.

[00:37:16] Now, if you want to get a little further into this and go back to the Bible and look at things presented in the Bible, in the book of Revelation, it talks about Babylon. Babylon, the great, has fallen, has fallen. And this statement has always stood out to me as a student of eschatology and a student of end times prophecy and stuff like that. And somebody who's studied this stuff in depth for many years.

[00:37:45] What you come to realize is when the Bible has a statement like that, a phrase like that, and it says the same thing twice, it means it will happen twice. So what this represents, what Babylon, in the sense of the book of Revelation, represents is this world empire, the holy Roman Empire. It will fall twice.

[00:38:06] So now we've seen the first falling of the Roman Empire because they're trying to bring about this new Roman Empire from the ashes that will be the great American Empire. And all of this stuff is encoded all over the place. If you go back and look at the works of Manly P. Hall, he'll talk about the secret destiny of America. And certainly the secret destiny of America is to be the new Babylon or the new Rome. And it will be the world power.

[00:38:33] And it had seemed for a time that America was losing its status in this world as a superpower. And now with the installation of Trump in the presidency and now this new American pope in the prophecy, it would appear America is making a comeback. They're even talking about a new golden age. You notice all the language and stuff they use about this. It's all representing the same thing. This is what they're talking about. The arisal of this new Roman Empire. And it's the second Babylon.

[00:39:02] So it is destined to fall at the end of days here. But first it has to be established. And what we're seeing now is this establishment of the new Rome. That's what all of the synchromyistic metadata points to and is talking about. So when you understand this, you understand a little bit about the alchemical processes.

[00:39:20] You could see all of this stuff through these seemingly disparate bits of information out there in the media and in the greater information field that I like to call the zeitgeist because there's a spiritual component to it. And zeitgeist is a German word that means spirit of the time. So we have this information field. And this is the whole thing. And some people might get lost on this idea. Okay. People from all different walks of life agree this information field exists.

[00:39:50] They just differ on what they call it. Now you'll have the people that study the occult will call it the Akashic Record. Or they'll call it ancestral memory. Or things like that. You have the scientists will call it the quantum information field. They'll call it genetic memory or epigenetic memory. Things like this. But what this is, and the term I use is zeitgeist, it's this greater information field.

[00:40:19] And it has these little disparate bits of information in it. And if you know what you're looking for, and you can connect the dots, if you have pattern recognition skills, you see it immediately. And you know what it's pointing to. So this is the kind of stuff that I've been doing. I've been spending years of my life reverse engineering this. And this is certainly one of the things that is used to manipulate the human mind in a lot of ways.

[00:40:44] So these dark occultists who run things in this world, and their minions, the technocrats, they are able to leverage some of these bits of information at certain points to affect our conscious behavior in certain ways we don't realize. So when you recognize this and know that this is what it is, then you begin to realize just how much influence this kind of stuff can have on you without you even realizing it. If you're not consciously aware of it, it affects you more.

[00:41:14] And that's the whole point. That's why they do the things this way. That's why they'll put out there those little news bites, like that Elon Musk story where he named his 14th kid Romulus. And just a couple weeks prior, they were talking about Romulus and Remus, the dire wolves. And they put all this information out there. And certainly, most people don't recognize it for what it is.

[00:41:37] So that being the case, once you know what this is and how it works, you begin to see it everywhere. And then you can kind of make predictions based upon that about what's coming. So I had a feeling that we would be seeing the installation of a new pope. And it didn't go exactly the way that I had pictured that it would. But now we have this American pope. And that has completely stratified everything that I've been talking about for the longest time now.

[00:42:07] Because now it all makes sense. Because now I can see very clearly the alchemical process being leveraged in that way. Now, I would argue oftentimes that there's a beyond human intelligence or something that guides and directs this at certain layers. So it's not all human planning that goes into this. It goes beyond that. And I don't have the answers as to how exactly all of this works. It's just pattern recognition. Let's put it that way. So I know that's a lot of information right there, Rose.

[00:42:36] And I want to hear your take on some of this. Yeah, that's a ton of information. And you're focused on the esoteric, the symbolic. And I'm totally with you about the union of the lion and the wolf, which represents the religion and the state. And that we're taking incremental steps toward this push for a new world order, which is aiming to have iron-fisted control over humanity.

[00:43:02] I also feel that there is a spiritual war going on. And there is a battle for every single solitary person's quote-unquote soul, however you want to think about it, whether you're religious or not, or whatever you want to ascribe to. It just seems so blatantly apparent to me that there's good and that there's evil. And people have the decision to go whichever direction they want.

[00:43:29] So we have to remember that every pope and every politician and all these people that we see as puppets for this new world order, we also have to remember that they are human beings who are in the same fight. And they have their own brains and their own inner battles. And who knows what can happen? We should stay open-minded to people breaking free or becoming whistleblowers or making things worse. Who knows?

[00:43:56] But since I saw in the chat, Rob B. pointed out, this is really surface-level, googly-type stuff to show, not really up to par with your esoteric symbolism. But I still feel like we should cover it, which is the controversy around this new pope, which I don't think should be ignored because we can talk about the symbolic and the big picture a lot.

[00:44:18] But I also feel like I want to be one of those people that keeps reminding people about how bad this kind of behavior is related to sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior. And I found out that this new pope had... Okay, let me read it right off my screen here.

[00:45:05] So, I mean, I just feel like that's not very good judgment. If someone has ever admitted to inappropriate conduct, I'm the type of person that feels like they should never be around people in that kind of setting again. No second chances. Maybe I'm being too harsh. What do you think about that? Is it, like, impossible that they couldn't find a guy that didn't have something like that in his history?

[00:45:33] Or is just everyone going to be guilty of kind of allowing things to happen or making bad choices in that way? And I'm being way too judgmental. What do you think? Oh, it's hard to say for sure with all of that exactly what was what with it. But certainly this has been an ongoing problem within the Catholic Church. And I think this is part and parcel of what was revealed by Father Malachi Martin in that 1996 book, Windswept House.

[00:46:03] And, of course, if you have this other spirit present there, then you have this upholding of this type of stuff. And all of this ties back to the old secret society groups and stuff, too. When you look back, the Templars were doing very similar things as well. And all of these different secret society groups that interpenetrated into the Catholic Church. They're all kind of guilty of some of the same things going on, and they all cover for one another.

[00:46:32] So certainly I don't see that as being something excusable. But there is that claim made that this pope did now cover up for some of these people when he knew about it. And it was under his power to either excommunicate the guy or something like that. And he didn't. So only time will tell what exactly will come of all of this. But like I said, the whole point here is they never let any type of a good crisis go to waste.

[00:46:59] You've heard them say, well, the installation of a new pope is a type of a crisis. The old pope passed away, and they had to get a guy in there who was going to take things in the same direction as the old pope. And it looks like this guy might be of the same mindset. So you have to wonder. Now, I'm all about giving some of these people the benefit of the doubt and giving them a chance. But it seems to me that on the political spectrum, he was very close to Pope Francis in a lot of his viewpoints.

[00:47:28] And he comes from Chicago, one of the most liberal areas in the country. So when you recognize that, you could probably know a little bit about what this guy's attitudes and opinions are going to be. But time will tell. I don't have all the answers for sure. And I'm just curious to see where this all leads.

[00:47:49] Now, I don't think that this guy necessarily represents what has been come to be known in research circles as Petrus Romanus, Peter the Roman, the last pope. Maybe he is the last pope. I don't know. There's a whole litany of different predictions and prophecies about the final pope. And many people thought Pope Francis was going to be this final pope.

[00:48:17] And apparently that's not the case because now we have another pope. And what is said is after the final pope passes away or is excommunicated from office or however he leaves office, then we will see the arrival and the arisal of the Antichrist. So I don't think as many expected this guy would be what they refer to as Petrus Romanus, the Antichrist. I don't think that's the case.

[00:48:43] I honestly am of the viewpoint that Antichrist is something entirely different than what is represented in most of the religious mainstream look at this, how they view it. I think it has something to do with artificial intelligence and the transhumanist singularity in my view.

[00:49:03] But certainly there are many mainline Christian scholars and theologians, and especially in the Catholic faith, Catholic theologians who are looking for this arrival of this last pope that's been predicted by some within their own organizations and looking for the advent of Antichrist beyond that. So I don't think this guy represents that, but I could be totally wrong on that.

[00:49:33] I don't have all the answers. Like I said, I'm just curious to see what happened. And I know a few things that I see out there in the synchromyistic metadata field that I could read and put the dots together to know what the overall archetype is they're trying to leverage here. And it is this arisal of the new Rome, the new Holy Roman Empire. And of course, they've attached this to America. So are we going to see America be great again?

[00:50:03] And I think the answer is we will. But is it an illusion or is it going to be short lived or is there something more sinister going on or are we really making a turn for the better? I don't know. I don't have answers. But certainly they're looking to fulfill their great work, as we have just explored here, by looking at that symbol of the red lion, this new pope that's been installed. So a lot there to unpack. Yeah, yeah. There's so much to unpack.

[00:50:32] And with what you're describing with this oncoming of a new Rome and America's place in it, which is huge and marking like kind of an end of an era, it's almost like a part of the cover up or the distraction for him to go back to the general garb and to have like a traditional mindset. Like I was reading that he's against abortion and against euthanasia and against women being like priests. Right. Is that right? I think I read that. Ordinaries.

[00:51:01] Is that the right word? If he's against women being ordinaries, that means he's against them being priests. Is that right, Wayne? I guess so. I'm not as familiar with that language that goes with some of these mainline old Catholic belief systems. But yeah, I know that's that's something that is more traditionalist as a Catholic view. They they don't believe in the installment of women in the priesthood. So, yeah, maybe he's he's more traditional valued in that way.

[00:51:31] Hard to say for sure. But we're seeing we're seeing the West being leveraged in that direction as well, back towards common sense and moral values and things of that nature. And is it a ruse or is it really what's what's going on? I think a lot of it at the end of the day with the connections, the political connections and machinations that go on. And I think a lot of it's a ruse by this New World Order crew that wants to put themselves in power and keep themselves in power.

[00:51:59] But the average person just wants what everybody wants. They want to go back to common sense. They want to go back to just living their lives and some good moral values and feeling safe and good about raising a family and stuff like that. And not having to deal with all the nonsense that has been socially engineered into our society the past decade.

[00:52:27] So it's hard to tell what's going on. Is it really changing for the good or is it just all more of a show for all of us? All the world is a stage. So I have a hard time. Maybe I'm maybe I'm jaded. Maybe I'm a little bit of the skeptical sort and maybe I'm just too suspicious of everything. And that's that's fine. Everybody's got their their own points of view with that. But I don't know.

[00:52:56] I'm always waiting for the other the other shoe to drop. Let's put it that way. And I think that players are going to play their games. All right. And that's the bottom line. And in control of this world, you have these big players and they're going to play their games that benefit them. And they're going to try and leverage everything any way they can, no matter what comes down the pike at them. So we have the new pope and we have this connection to America. And this will be leveraged to the utmost. Make no doubt about it.

[00:53:24] I'm looking up to see if his Twitter page is updated because I was reading that he was a little bit outspoken on Twitter at times. And I was also Googling him to see if I can catch him shaking hands with any globalists like Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab. But it doesn't seem that he's ever attended the WEF and he hasn't shaked hands with anyone that I was looking for. I can only find pictures of him doing very Catholic-y things with the pope. So it seems like he was close with the pope.

[00:53:54] And so maybe, you know, whatever the pope wanted him to become, he's now having that opportunity after his death. And like I said before, he's a human being. And he might have great plans for peace. Or he might just be pretending that he's representing peace and acting like as a certain character as the New World Order unfolds. Or maybe we'll watch some kind of transformation where he starts to promote things that he didn't used to. As you said, we don't know.

[00:54:22] We just have to see. But let's see here. I guess there is no Pope Leo Twitter. But just like in the beginning when you said, wow, like look at how everything is unfolding. I was totally prepared for everything to be live streamed. I wasn't surprised at all. If it wasn't live streamed, I would have been someone who complained. I'm like, why aren't they live streaming the new pope? It's 2025. Everything's being covered in real time. Everyone has to have a webcam set up.

[00:54:50] And people were literally treating the installation of the new pope today like a football game. It didn't look any different to me than the excitement and the cheer of the Super Bowl. And at times it's like you look at it and it's like, oh gosh, I wish I could hypnotize myself into giving a shit about something like that. Just as a break from the realities of life. But I can't make myself like people. I feel exactly how you do. I'm sorry. I don't care.

[00:55:18] I can't care because I know it's all an illusion and it's all crap. Let's be honest about it. But that's essentially what's going on. They've turned it into such a pageant. It's all a show. All the world is a stage. And we're all just watching this unfold on the world stage. And they even refer to it as the world stage. I just find it somewhat amusing at times that people get so invested in this stuff.

[00:55:44] But at the end of the day, how is the election of a new pope going to affect any of us on a day to day basis? Is anybody even going to know or care? Honestly, I didn't care about the last pope. Nothing he did had any effect on me whatsoever. So why would I care about this one? And it's the same thing that goes on. And of course, I find this intriguing.

[00:56:07] I do see a question here in the chat asking about what my thoughts are pertaining to the little season idea that has popped up in alternative channels lately. I'll be honest. I don't really listen to much of anything anymore. I'm usually too busy producing my own work to really listen to other podcasts or other alternative news channels.

[00:56:33] So I'm not quite sure what you're referring to, unless, of course, it pertains to the biblical concept of Satan being loosed for a little season. Like directly after the time of the thousand year millennial reign after the tribulation, which if that's the case, if people are like trying to infer that that's what's going on here.

[00:56:55] Well, they're not really spot on with what the Bible says, because we definitely have not entered that millennial reign. And we certainly have not ever seen Satan bound in this world at this point. So we have all this stuff going on still. So if they're trying to imply that that's what's going on, then I think they're mistaken or they're misleading people.

[00:57:21] But I'm assuming that that's essentially what's being inferred. I don't know. I'm not sure what exactly you're talking about. So if you could give us a little more context into that, then maybe I could answer a little better. I found his Twitter page and the last thing that he pinned was only one word. Thanks! Exclamation point. So that's very succinct. And then he says, I love you. May God protect you.

[00:57:47] I truly regret clicking on another one of his posts because there was just like gross, weird responses in Chinese. But this sentence here from an hour ago says the misery of God. Sorry, not the misery. What was it? I looked it up and I already forgot. The mercy. You said the quiet part out loud, Rose. The mercy. Yeah, the mercy. The mercy of God is infinite. So it's so interesting that we have a pope. This is the 267th pope.

[00:58:17] All those popes ago at the beginning of the first pope, could they have even imagined that there would be something called a Twitter, or actually now an X, and that the pope would be able to communicate with every single solitary mind who wants to be contacted with the snap of a finger and a click of a button. It's a trip. It really is a trip. Yeah, it is interesting.

[00:58:42] And even when you consider the first pope that they claim was the first pope wasn't really a pope, and Jesus himself never really installed a pope or named anybody a pope. They accredit Peter, St. Peter, with being the first pope, but that's not really the case. He never took the office or claimed to be pope. The whole notion of the office of pope didn't come out until sometime later after that.

[00:59:05] So that whole notion in and of itself is flawed in a lot of the Catholic ideology. But I digress on that point. I do know quite a bit about Catholic, well, not Catholic, but Christian theology, and I know some stuff about Catholic theology that goes along with it that doesn't seem to align with what we actually have for source material.

[00:59:29] So that being the case, I take umbrage with some of the things that they claim, like St. Peter being the first pope. He never was the pope. He wouldn't claim to be the pope. Jesus never installed a pope or said, you have to follow this guy. There's going to be one guy in charge of the whole church, and you're going to listen to him rather than seeking that direct connection with me. So I don't know as far as that goes, like how people believe on that stuff. But I'll digress on that point.

[00:59:59] And I won't bore you with my own ramblings about these things. I don't even know what to think about these things because I had my mother who would talk behind my stepmom's back and say how crazy she was for being a born-again Christian. But then my born-again Christian stepmom would tell me about how the Catholics were crazy for doing confession and having someone that you have to be the intermediary to God.

[01:00:27] And so I've just grown up with everybody criticizing each other's beliefs. And so I just try to find the good in things, like when it comes to Catholicism, that definitely speaks to my hierarchical corporate structure mentality of going up the ladder and whatnot and being organized and having names and outfits for everything. But I don't really see the spiritual value in that aspect of it.

[01:00:55] So I would need some convincing to understand why all the bells and whistles were necessary. Because I feel like if there was a God that you would be able to have that whole personal relationship, instant communication, instant karma situation, no church required to feel that backlash when you make a mistake. Sometimes it really happens instantly. So, yeah, that's my thoughts. Let's put it this way.

[01:01:19] I think a lot of the basis of what has become the Catholic dogma that permeates the Catholic religion is all flawed in its basic tenets. Because here's the thing. When Christ was crucified and died on the cross and was resurrected, the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top down. And that was the separation between man and God.

[01:01:43] He reconciled man with God so we could have that connection with God without an intermediary. And we don't need to go to the priest. And, of course, this upset the apple cart at the time because the priest class has always wanted to maintain their power and authority over the people. And we don't have to have that to have that relationship with God. And they know that. And that upsets these people in power. And it's still the same thing going on.

[01:02:12] They just changed the trappings around a little bit. Let's put it that way. So, at any rate, you don't need to have the pope as the intermediary between you and God. You don't need a priest as the intermediary between you and God. All of that is the systems of the Old Testament. And it's all dogmatic at this point. And it's all legalism. And anybody who's following these legalistic doctrines, well, they're very much hurting themselves because you cannot live up to that standard.

[01:02:42] That is why God gave us the laws of Moses, why he used Moses to present these laws to us so that we understand we can't do it in our own power. We cannot live up to that standard. And therefore, we have to have a reconciliation from God to us. And that is why he sent Jesus Christ to die for our sins so that we can have that reconciliation with him.

[01:03:05] And we don't have to seek at obeying or keeping those laws and all those rituals and all of the different things that arose in the Old Testament form of worship that they had. They made the sacrifices every year. They took the sacrifice to the priest who had to be consecrated and take the sacrifice into the temple and do this and that and the other thing just to cover the sins of the people for another year.

[01:03:31] And all of that is made moot by the power of Jesus Christ and the things that he did. So when you understand that, then you see all the trappings of this Catholic faith are worthless, really. And this installation of a pope and all the political machinations of it, that's all it is, is it's politics. It's theater. They've politicized this. They've taken religion and turned it into a control structure. And, of course, it's escalated from there and gone out from there.

[01:04:00] And, of course, all organized religion in one shape or form has become a control structure of sorts for people. So anyway, I know that's a lot. And that's that's kind of my viewpoints on things. So for what it's worth, you could get yourself a cup of coffee with that. So that's what we're here to do. We're just, you know, talking, chatting, explaining our thoughts. Thank you so much, Joshua Aaron Uler Oler.

[01:04:30] I hope I'm saying your name right. Oh, look, Tommy's here. You want to come up? We I want it. I'm putting out the link for anyone who wants to come up. I don't know if you have to go to sleep now, Wayne, or if you want to stick around for a while. But this has been a wonderful conversation. I feel like we covered a lot that I wanted to talk about. And I was cool with, you know, sticking around a little bit longer if you are. Yeah, I'm good with that. Okay, cool. Stick around a little bit longer. That's cool. Don't get me wrong.

[01:04:59] I'm not bashing on Catholicism. I know a lot of good Catholics. And there are a lot of good core tenets to Catholicism that are definitely good. But certainly, I see some of the flaws in the system. And it's not just Catholicism. It's all of Christian religion. It's all religions in general. They've become tainted from what they were originally intended to be. That's the problem that I have with a lot of it.

[01:05:22] And most of what it is, is man-made dogma that has arisen around a lot of these things. So, Wayne, I have a guest here. Tommy's here. Don't you think that his picture is funny? Can we just acknowledge the picture first? That he photoshopped his own face onto George Bush as he's finding out about 9-11? Yeah, I find that funny. That's a good picture. What's up, Tommy?

[01:05:50] I appreciate your complete and utter disregard for the algorithm as you describe that to a T. I appreciate it for real. No problem. We are no holds barred here on Rose 777. We've already been terminated once. We might be terminated again. But do you have any thoughts about- Vaccine, COVID. Vaccine, COVID. Just cover the bases. And they're even admitting I was right about that in my reinstating of my YouTube channel. They admitted I was right in multiple articles. And it's so crazy because it just doesn't-

[01:06:20] I don't get anything out of it like I would have if they admitted it when I was screaming from the hilltops about it. I don't know if Wayne has a feeling about that now that we know we were up also. You were right, too. But go ahead. I was just going to say that Mandalay Bay Sandy Hook. Mandalay Bay Sandy Hook marathon boom boom thing. Pressure cooker. And rape.

[01:06:50] What was the Boston Marathon? Yeah, Boston Marathon. Pressure cooker. Mandalay Bay Sandy Hook. The Boston Marathon was episode 44 of Crow Triple Seven Radio. And I would be curious to know if it would fly on YouTube again. But I'm not going to find out with this channel. Vaccines are a eugenics weapon there. We'll put that out there and see what happens. Yeah. We're testing my channel.

[01:07:19] I don't think you could make jungle fever in 2025. I don't think these woke kids could handle the jungle fever concept of the 90s. Is that a code word for AIDS? No, no. It was just a mixed couple. Black and white couple. It was called jungle fever. Oh, I didn't even know what that meant. See, you taught me something tonight, Tommy. There was a 90s movie about it. And it had a song that went with it. Like, he's got jungle fever. She's got jungle fever.

[01:07:48] And I'm like, I don't think that's fly today. I feel like a producer. I'm like, nah, I can't sign off on it. No. Jungle. Like, black people. I want to keep the topic on the show. Jungle things and references. Like, then I think monkeys. I don't think it'd fly today with the woke kids. Probably not. But I want to keep the topic onto the Pope for this particular show. Do you have any particular thoughts about the new Pope? Or should I just go ahead and talk about the show?

[01:08:15] I don't know what the system or entity was that had always predicted the Pope, I guess, accurately. But there's only one slot left for one more painting. And that's this one. Oh, yeah. Wayne, have you heard about that? So there it is. That all goes along with this prediction of the last Pope and how after that will be the arisal of Antichrist. So a lot of people were predicting that the last Pope himself would be the Antichrist.

[01:08:45] But I don't think that's the case. And that's where you get this prediction of what they call Petrus Romanus that has come about from that. But certainly doesn't seem to be the case, at least so far. So we'll see. I think with both Christians and all across the spectrum from Christian atheists, people are way too trigger happy with the point. And that's the Antichrist. No, you don't say it's gross. No, Trump's Antichrist. It's just too much. It's like, just chill. Just chill.

[01:09:15] Just let it happen. Let it happen or not happen. Well, that's the thing. No man really knows what it's all going to shape out and look like. So we just have to recognize the signs of the times and just know where it is in the timeline that we're at and just be weary of those things. But like you said, it's not worth worrying about. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love and a sound mind. So we need to keep all that in check.

[01:09:45] No fear. Just that. The one I am kind of starting to nail down, and I won't be embarrassed if I'm wrong. The image of the beast that can speak and kill people for not worshiping the beast very much seems like some kind of robot. That like the foreseer back then of the apparition or vision he's having, he'd think it's like a statue or the image of a thing.

[01:10:14] It's probably going to be a robot. I would expect it's probably something digital. Let's put it that way. It will demand that you bow down and worship the beast that it's the image of, and if you don't, it can kill you itself. So yeah, probably like murder bots, probably. Really quick, I just want to mention since I see AD 33, AD 2033.

[01:10:41] You said earlier that this pope was aligned with Trump, and I don't know if that's true or not. Maybe it is. But I thought it was interesting because when I was purposefully looking for articles that were going to give me that answer, there was a lot of them that were going, ha ha, the new pope is like a slap in the face to Trump. So that's why I was so curious when you said that, and I don't know why you think that if you want to put down why you wrote that,

[01:11:08] but if you Google it, maybe you'll see the same articles that I did where they're saying that he's quote unquote woke. And I couldn't find a reason why he's quote unquote woke, but I think it's interesting that the news and the articles was putting that idea out there. Even this pope that died was very disturbingly woke, even to my Protestant ass. Like this pope that died was like, yes, marriage between all kinds of things and all roads lead to God.

[01:11:38] And I was like, what? Yeah, it's something that seems to be a trend that will continue with this one from what I've seen. But I don't know if he's, say, anti-Trump or not, or like if he's Trump's guy or whatever. One really doesn't have much to do with the other as far as what I have seen.

[01:11:59] But certainly you'll understand that what's been engineered here through the Trump administration in America aligns totally with this whole reawakening of the church idea, as we were just speaking of this arrival of the new Roman Empire and all of those things that go with that whole document that came from Heritage Foundation that all the liberals were losing their minds over. So we might be seeing some of that under fruition.

[01:12:27] There will be the world deception religion because classically, to have your tax exemption, you didn't take part in the politics as the church. But Catholic, a little different. You know, the thing. What is it over there in Rome? It's called? The Vatican? Yeah. Yeah, I've been up too. I'm losing my words. And I still got to go on my channel.

[01:12:56] I don't words good right now. That's perfectly fine. I'm still glad that you came up, Tommy. And Wayne, I'm glad that you came here tonight and you were so readily available to have this conversation. And I hope that I'm live again with both of you at some point or another. But I think I am going to close it out. It doesn't seem like anyone else is going to hit the link. But I would like everybody to please keep your eye out for future shows.

[01:13:20] And I would like to have more shows where I share the link and people join to hang out with me and give me their thoughts. And, Tommy, did you say that you were going live tonight? Do you want me to advertise your show? No. No, it's just a very short thing to try and bitch out some losers that are wrong about things. But I just wanted to point out before I go, the thing you said is very much the plan where we all do have the same Google articles. Like I get the same Google articles that you'll see.

[01:13:48] That's very much premeditated. Are you sure about that, though? Because I feel like people are receiving different articles based on their interests. So my parents. Parents. Yeah, there's that. As far as if we both search the same things, we'll get primarily a lot of the same results. Kind of like the video of all the different news stations saying the same quips.

[01:14:13] It basically feels like the Internet's, from the Internet's perspective, it's they're like, we're providing you the service of giving you what you want. And then you can guide it by saying, like, not interested, interested, not interested, interested. And then you're going to have the Internet that you kind of like want for yourself. And then your preferences are like that.

[01:14:35] But as far as legit information, it's very much being funneled and filtered compared to the early Internet days. That was the golden era of the Internet. Yeah, everything that you get from a search return now is pretty much tailor-made to your preferences at this point. So it's like a giant echo chamber for the most part for a lot of us. And it seems that way.

[01:15:00] But there are other people that would get differently skewed results searching for the same things. Because the AI knows what it is you're looking for and wants to reinforce your already preexistent ideas. And this is the problem with AI. Like it will purposely misdirect people or give people what they want to see just to reinforce their ideas. So we see a lot of that all the time. And it's been getting worse and worse for the years.

[01:15:28] And I've also found I had won an argument with ChatGPT. But it's on the basis that it was like keeping me allegedly like misdirected until I figured out the right way to say this is what I'm telling you as fact. And then it goes, oh, that's correct. That is the guy that invented this. And now this company is that.

[01:15:52] And so like it's very meticulous how it's going to keep you confused. If you don't know exactly how to word things, it won't tell you the right stuff. Yeah, I was just telling Wayne that I like to fact check ChatGPT. And so I'll be talking to it just as like a science experiment to see how quickly I can catch it being wrong. And then once I find out that it's wrong, I'll say, you said this and this, and therefore that can't be true. So what you told me is incorrect.

[01:16:21] How could you do this to me? And how could I ever trust you again? And it's really funny how a respondent will be like, look, I understand that you may have issues with trust after this situation. And I'm amused. What were you going to say, Wayne? I want you to last word before we end the show. It's like you're my little ChatGPT. Yeah, I'm not a particular fan of these AI chatbots or anything of the sort, but certainly they're useful tools in certain situations.

[01:16:50] I'm not going to sit and argue with it, though, especially when I know I'm right and it's wrong. So it's not worth wasting the effort on because it's not something you're going to change its mind at all. It's not going to take what you tell it and help somebody else with that information. That's not how it works. These things are tailor made to actually reinforce what you're already looking for. And that's the problem with it.

[01:17:17] It's a very biased system just inherently because it will take your search history. It'll take your preferences, all of these things, and it will tailor make a response to you. And if you are very specific with how you word your request from it, it will be even more precise with what it is you're looking for. And the problem is sometimes it gives you false data. And this is what they're discovering with the use of these different AI chatbots and things like that.

[01:17:46] They have what's referred to in the industry as they come back with what they call a hallucination, which is false data based upon more false data that was given by other AI chatbots and by this software that learns from itself. And it gives you these skewed returns. That's what happens through the course of time. And it's called a hallucination. So after so long, you're not getting good information from it anymore. It just tells you what it thinks you want to hear.

[01:18:16] And you'll see this. All you got to do is go and look around at some of these things that have emerged like on like the reels feeds and the YouTube feeds and the TikTok feeds and stuff like that. And look at these AI generated videos and how they have people believing in a lot of this crap that it's put out there. And trying to reinforce the idea with people by trying to give them what it establishes as what it claims are facts that really aren't.

[01:18:43] And a perfect example of this is what has become of the whole Tartaria thing. I see that all the time and I just laugh because it's nonsense. There's nothing to it. And people are so vested in it largely because of how AI has taken the ball with it and run now. And they show you all these alleged proofs that aren't really there and don't exist. Well, to be clear, we know that history is a lie agreed upon.

[01:19:09] And there is so much we do not know about our history or even about today in the current ocean. We don't even know what's going on in our own oceans. So we really don't know anything. However, this whole quote unquote Tartarian psyop, which is very specifically geared towards pushing people in a very specific direction. It's erasing whatever history we have left, you know, denying what we do know, what we can derive.

[01:19:38] And it's distracting people from whatever is really going on, which could be a combination of so many cool different theories that I have different friends who think different things about that. Some of it related to God and the Bible and the end times and God's judgment and cataclysms and other things too from non-Christian woo-woo people. But a lot of it has to do with the woo-woo when you go into this stuff.

[01:20:04] I mean, it's so insane to consider that there were civilizations before us that had better technology. I mean, anyone, any normie out there, once you try and explain that to them, it really kind of like breaks your worldview because we've always thought that before means not as good. Like caveman ooga booga.

[01:20:24] And you don't think about people who would be able to, you know, predict eclipses or understand greater cycles of time or be able to move large amounts of stone. It's crazy. I kind of went on a ramble there. But yeah. No, it's all good. I actually interrupted you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I interrupted you. Our history is a lie agreed upon. I mean, that we do know.

[01:20:48] But all the stuff that has emerged around this Tartaria thing, this drives me nuts because it is just so crafted towards people that have a conspiratorial view on things. It's a tailor-made research topic. Let's put it that way. It's a tailor-made PSYOP just for those of us who are critical thinkers and understand we've been lied to. And it leads people down the wrong path. So let's put it that way.

[01:21:13] It's really been something I've been watching unfold in real time for the past several years now. And in fact, we even did a Crow 777 episode about that that never got released because of how controversial it was at the time. We should have released it. We should have. But I've since done shows on my own and stuff about it, explaining what exactly is all represented there and where it all comes from. But a lot of people are vested in this idea.

[01:21:43] And it's kind of like that old hopium idea. They want to believe. It's the old catchphrase from the X-Files. I want to believe. That's what it is. They really firmly want to believe in something like that, that there was this vast Tartarian empire that had advanced technologies and all of this stuff when there's absolutely no evidence to support that.

[01:22:06] And it really is just one of those things you could watch it all unfold in real time if you've been paying attention for about, oh, I don't know. What has it been? Maybe the last seven or eight years that that first emerged, the whole idea of Tartaria and the mud flood and all of these different ideas emerged in the greater conspiracy culture here. And we watched people start to do some serious research into it and maybe find some weird anomalies. And then from there, it escalated.

[01:22:35] And now AI has grabbed a hold of it and has really pushed it like way beyond anything that it ever was before. And it's to the point of ridiculousness. And this is all part and parcel of one of the problems we have with this AI as it's come into being here is it's pushing the bounds of what we accept as reality. It's skewing our perceptions and making it hard for us to tell what's real and what's false anymore.

[01:23:04] And that's one of the dangers of this when you have stuff like deep fakes and you have all of this AI generated content out there now. And it's getting very hard to distinguish AI generated content now. It's getting a lot better at producing some of these things. So it's hard for people to tell what's real, what's false.

[01:23:23] But certainly that whole Tartaria thing, it's really just it's it's one of the one of the test scenarios, I guess you could say testing the waters for it. Yeah, well, if anybody's curious out there to just get more information about the topic, please do contact me. This is a good opportunity. I did put your your channel up here for everyone to see.

[01:23:51] Everyone should go and subscribe to Alchemical Tech Revolution. You're putting out content regularly. And so people really, really need to go over there. And then also, if anyone wants like resources or if I said anything and you're like, oh, my gosh, usually I love you, Rose. But tonight you said something that was so crazy. And I have no idea why you feel that way or why you said that.

[01:24:12] And I will send you all the reasons, whether I type them out in one long paragraph or intersperse it with links or something. You'll know why I think that. And then you'll know what I know. And then you can take it from there and you can be like, OK, well, she's just crazy about that. Or maybe you'll agree with me and you'll be like, oh, OK, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's my email address. Contact Rose 777 at ProtonMail.com.

[01:24:41] The word contact is part of the email address. If you just do Rose 777 at ProtonMail.com, I'm not going to get it. It's not my email address. But I think that's it for me tonight, Wayne. I'm so happy that we did this and I hope we do many more shows. Yeah, maybe we'll have to revisit the Poppycock Report, too. That's always a fun one. Absolutely. And if you were proud of the show that we did tonight, you could re-upload it on your channel, too.

[01:25:08] I know that when we did the Poppycock Report on your channel, someone was like, what the heck is going on? This is nothing like Wayne's work. Yeah, I mean, I'm usually a pretty serious and straight-laced guy with the research in this stuff. I do try to put a little humor in there here and there. But the Poppycock Report is totally different. We just take the gloves off and just poke fun at all of it. But it really is nice to have a conversation with you without having to look at the mainstream media. And just read these dumb headlines.

[01:25:35] But it does have its place at a certain time and place. And now that my channel's back, we might as well do a Poppycock. Yeah, we'll have to plan it in the near future. It's always great to do so. All right. Great. Well, everybody, thank you so much for joining me tonight. It has been a blast. I truly appreciate it. And I hope to do many more shows and have everyone here with us. We are a big, happy family over here at Rose 777, where we share different ideas.

[01:26:03] And we just try to hold these ideas in our mind without being overly skeptical or overly naive. And just listen and be cool with each other and be good to each other. Because that's what I want my channel to be like. And I hope it can be like that. And maybe it can't, but maybe it can. And it's up to you guys as my audience. And I'm glad that we're all here. See you soon. Bye.