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[00:01:27] Good evening, everyone.

[00:01:28] Tonight, we're going to discuss the high strangeness of the year 1947.

[00:01:35] Something happened that year in the history of the world.

[00:01:39] Something shifted in that year.

[00:01:43] We have seen since that time a type of a quickening process going on in the world,

[00:01:51] as described by such notable authors and personalities as Art Bell.

[00:01:58] He wrote a book called The Quickening.

[00:02:00] He described this in many of his old broadcasts.

[00:02:03] The Quickening, that's the concept that perhaps time is speeding up towards some inescapable ends here.

[00:02:10] And we have seen, if we go back and look through the historical record,

[00:02:15] high strangeness in the year 1947 that occurred.

[00:02:19] And, in my estimate, left an indelible mark in the zeitgeist, or the spirit of the time.

[00:02:27] So we're going to explore this high strangeness tonight.

[00:02:30] The synchromystic shift, if you will.

[00:02:34] Tonight, we'll primarily be reading from a book titled Sinister Forces,

[00:02:39] a grimoire of American political witchcraft.

[00:02:42] And this one is Book 1, The 9, by one Mr. Peter Lavenda,

[00:02:47] who's a very well-researched author.

[00:02:51] Knows a lot of things, this guy.

[00:02:53] So, we're going to look into his writings here tonight.

[00:03:00] Regarding some of the strange events of 1947,

[00:03:05] and some of the stories you may be familiar with,

[00:03:08] and some of them you may not be familiar with.

[00:03:11] We'll see as we progress, like usual.

[00:03:14] I will offer my insights and my opinions on things.

[00:03:20] And, I always will urge you to look into these things.

[00:03:26] Do your own research on this stuff.

[00:03:28] Formulate your own opinions.

[00:03:30] Draw your own conclusions.

[00:03:31] I'm just here to lay down the foundations here,

[00:03:35] and give you the facts as we can construe them,

[00:03:38] and tell you exactly what it is that many people have put pen to paper,

[00:03:43] and told others about.

[00:03:45] What can be recorded?

[00:03:47] What could be relegated to fact?

[00:03:49] What could be relegated to fiction?

[00:03:51] What falls somewhere in the middle?

[00:03:54] And I think a lot falls in the middle these days.

[00:03:58] Many things have arisen in the modern era.

[00:04:01] That can be equated to a modern mythology of sorts.

[00:04:06] But mythology, folks, is hugely important,

[00:04:08] so don't lose sight of that fact.

[00:04:12] So, let's go ahead and we'll begin reading here.

[00:04:16] 1947 was a pivotal year of the post-war period.

[00:04:20] Many of the issues that define our generation

[00:04:23] owe their conceptions to the events of that year.

[00:04:27] 1947 was the year the CIA was created,

[00:04:31] and the penetrating of secrets.

[00:04:32] It was the year of the famous UFO crash at Roswell, New Mexico,

[00:04:37] and the subsequent concealing of secrets.

[00:04:40] The year the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in their exposure of secrets.

[00:04:44] It was the year Winston Churchill made his famous Iron Curtain speech,

[00:04:49] thus declaring the beginning of the Cold War.

[00:04:52] It's the year that the House Un-American Activities Committee

[00:04:56] begins its full-scale investigation of Hollywood.

[00:05:00] It is the year that inventor Arthur Young leaves Bell helicopter

[00:05:03] for a full-time study of paranormal phenomena.

[00:05:07] It is the year that the U.S. Navy begins Project Chatter,

[00:05:12] the search for a viable truth serum,

[00:05:14] a magic potion to unlock the secrets of the mind.

[00:05:18] So I'm going to pause for a moment here, folks.

[00:05:21] You'll notice that there's an underlying theme here

[00:05:24] in this opening paragraph by Mr. Lavenda

[00:05:26] in this portion of his book.

[00:05:29] Secrecy.

[00:05:32] Secrets.

[00:05:32] Secrets.

[00:05:35] 1947 was a pivotal year wherein secrets were locked up and unlocked,

[00:05:43] presented to some people and not to others,

[00:05:47] hidden away for some and exposed for others.

[00:05:53] Organizations like the CIA were founded in 1947.

[00:05:57] Of course, this is when the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services,

[00:06:01] morphed into the CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency.

[00:06:04] And we have an awful lot that goes along with that.

[00:06:08] So many sub-projects entered into

[00:06:13] the American scientific community,

[00:06:16] the military-industrial scientific community,

[00:06:19] within that year.

[00:06:21] So we're going to go ahead and continue reading here

[00:06:26] because we'll see there's a whole lot more,

[00:06:28] a whole lot more associated with secrecy

[00:06:33] that occurred in 1947,

[00:06:35] and high strangeness thus involved as well.

[00:06:42] In May of that year, the Corporal is launched.

[00:06:46] America's answer to the V-2 rocket,

[00:06:48] compliments of Jack Parsons,

[00:06:50] and the rest of the JPL Rocketeers.

[00:06:53] It is also the year of the famous Black Dahlia murder in Los Angeles,

[00:06:58] and of Admiral Byrd's Hollow Earth expedition.

[00:07:02] It is the year that Aleister Crowley dies.

[00:07:05] It is the year that Holly Maddox is born,

[00:07:08] a future murder victim whose death will expose

[00:07:11] the seamy underworld of the New Age movement.

[00:07:14] Going to pause for a moment here, folks.

[00:07:17] High strangeness, Admiral Byrd's trip to Antarctica,

[00:07:21] and allegedly the Hollow Earth,

[00:07:24] if you listen to some accounts.

[00:07:27] The Hollow Earth.

[00:07:28] This is a subject which highly fascinates me.

[00:07:32] I know I do hear a lot of people that still talk about Flat Earth

[00:07:36] and that push the Flat Earth narrative.

[00:07:39] A lot of people have adopted that idea,

[00:07:45] but not many people talk about the concept of

[00:07:49] the potential of the Hollow Earth theory,

[00:07:53] which I find absolutely fascinating,

[00:07:55] and no matter whether or not you believe in the globe Earth

[00:07:59] or the Flat Earth,

[00:08:01] that doesn't discount that there may be in existence

[00:08:04] the Hollow Earth.

[00:08:05] There might be something to this.

[00:08:07] And this is an area of research that's largely overlooked,

[00:08:11] and perhaps one day I will delve down that rabbit hole.

[00:08:14] I have not been brave enough to really explore

[00:08:17] the depths of that rabbit hole as of yet,

[00:08:20] but I think there might be something important about that.

[00:08:27] But that's one of the things that was also introduced in 1947,

[00:08:31] the concept of the Hollow Earth

[00:08:33] into the mainstream consciousness, if you will.

[00:08:38] I'm sure there have been stories prior to 1947

[00:08:41] about the concept of a Hollow Earth,

[00:08:44] but this is when it really took off

[00:08:47] in part of the collective unconscious,

[00:08:50] and that's the important idea here.

[00:08:52] And of course, also mentioned here,

[00:08:54] Alistair Crowley dies,

[00:08:56] and of course this is the year following

[00:08:58] the big Babylon working,

[00:09:00] performed in the high desert

[00:09:04] by Jack Parsons,

[00:09:05] who's also mentioned here,

[00:09:08] and one

[00:09:11] mister.

[00:09:14] Do you know who it is, folks?

[00:09:17] Who else was with Jack Parsons?

[00:09:20] L. Ron Hubbard.

[00:09:21] In case you were unaware,

[00:09:23] yes, the inventor of the religion

[00:09:25] or pseudo-religion of Scientology,

[00:09:27] L. Ron Hubbard was part of the Babylon working,

[00:09:30] along with

[00:09:32] Jack Parsons

[00:09:34] in the high desert,

[00:09:35] and both of those men

[00:09:36] were actually

[00:09:37] protégés of

[00:09:38] Alistair Crowley,

[00:09:39] who died in 1947.

[00:09:41] The Babylon working

[00:09:42] was performed in 1946,

[00:09:45] and I suspect

[00:09:47] that what

[00:09:50] Jack Parsons

[00:09:51] and L. Ron Hubbard

[00:09:52] were up to

[00:09:53] may have began

[00:09:55] to manifest

[00:09:56] the following year.

[00:09:57] Just a theory.

[00:10:00] They were up to something,

[00:10:02] and they unleashed

[00:10:03] a type of energy

[00:10:04] on the world

[00:10:05] that influenced

[00:10:06] the world

[00:10:07] come the following year.

[00:10:10] At least,

[00:10:12] that's some of what

[00:10:13] you can garner

[00:10:14] from the old stories.

[00:10:16] And as I always caution people,

[00:10:18] you do need to take this stuff

[00:10:19] with a grain of salt.

[00:10:20] There's no way to really prove

[00:10:21] nor disprove any of it.

[00:10:23] It is a recorded fact

[00:10:24] that they did perform

[00:10:25] this Babylon working,

[00:10:27] regardless of what your thoughts are

[00:10:29] on such a thing.

[00:10:31] Whether you believe it or not,

[00:10:32] what you need to understand

[00:10:33] is there's people

[00:10:33] in positions of power

[00:10:35] in this world

[00:10:35] that very much believe

[00:10:36] in the efficacy

[00:10:37] of these types of things

[00:10:39] and the things they do

[00:10:39] to act upon them

[00:10:40] will affect all of us.

[00:10:42] So therefore,

[00:10:43] you need to keep it

[00:10:44] on your radar.

[00:10:46] So I suspect

[00:10:47] that may have had

[00:10:49] something to do

[00:10:49] with some of the

[00:10:50] high strangeness

[00:10:51] that came into being

[00:10:53] just a few short months

[00:10:54] later in 1947.

[00:10:56] And of course,

[00:10:57] the passing of Crowley,

[00:10:59] one of those manifestations.

[00:11:01] But let's go ahead

[00:11:02] and we'll continue

[00:11:03] reading here.

[00:11:05] And if we can believe

[00:11:07] the Beatles,

[00:11:08] it is the year

[00:11:08] that Sgt. Pepper's band

[00:11:10] learned to play.

[00:11:11] The famous

[00:11:12] Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club

[00:11:14] band album

[00:11:14] was released in June of 1967

[00:11:17] with lyrics saying,

[00:11:18] quote,

[00:11:19] 20 years ago today,

[00:11:20] Sgt. Pepper taught

[00:11:21] his band to play,

[00:11:22] end quote.

[00:11:24] That would have been

[00:11:25] in June 1947,

[00:11:27] the month of the

[00:11:28] first UFO sightings

[00:11:29] that gave birth

[00:11:30] to the term

[00:11:31] Flying Saucer

[00:11:32] occurred in the

[00:11:34] Pacific Northwest.

[00:11:35] The lyrics go on

[00:11:36] to state,

[00:11:37] quote,

[00:11:38] we'd like to take you

[00:11:39] home with us,

[00:11:40] end quote.

[00:11:40] In retrospect,

[00:11:42] maybe we should have

[00:11:42] gone.

[00:11:43] It was the year

[00:11:45] when those things

[00:11:46] that are now

[00:11:46] so secret,

[00:11:47] so classified

[00:11:48] and behind the scenes

[00:11:49] were up front

[00:11:50] and in your face,

[00:11:51] the Cold War.

[00:11:53] The CIA,

[00:11:55] UFOs,

[00:11:56] whatever they were,

[00:11:57] alien spacecraft,

[00:11:57] or mogul balloons

[00:11:59] crashing in New Mexico,

[00:12:00] and the mysteries

[00:12:01] of the origins

[00:12:02] of Christianity

[00:12:03] revealed in a cache

[00:12:04] of clay jars

[00:12:06] in Palestine.

[00:12:07] Going to pause

[00:12:08] for a moment here,

[00:12:08] folks.

[00:12:09] The Dead Sea Scrolls,

[00:12:10] that's what he's

[00:12:11] referring to here.

[00:12:12] The Dead Sea Scrolls

[00:12:14] were brought into

[00:12:14] the public mind

[00:12:16] in 1947.

[00:12:19] Interesting story

[00:12:20] that goes along

[00:12:21] with that,

[00:12:21] and perhaps we'll

[00:12:22] look at that

[00:12:22] another day.

[00:12:26] The Dead Sea Scrolls,

[00:12:27] another huge revelation.

[00:12:30] foisted

[00:12:31] upon man

[00:12:32] in 1947.

[00:12:34] Let's read on.

[00:12:36] Maybe they were

[00:12:37] right about Jack Parsons.

[00:12:39] Maybe he did

[00:12:40] open a hole

[00:12:41] in space-time

[00:12:42] in that series

[00:12:43] of rituals

[00:12:43] in the Mojave Desert

[00:12:44] in 1946,

[00:12:45] and maybe something

[00:12:47] did fly right in

[00:12:48] and nested

[00:12:49] in America's heartland.

[00:12:50] Going to pause

[00:12:51] for a second here,

[00:12:52] folks.

[00:12:52] So here,

[00:12:53] Lavenda

[00:12:54] is hearkening

[00:12:55] back to the Babylon

[00:12:57] working,

[00:12:57] like I was just

[00:12:58] talking about.

[00:12:59] So I'm not the only

[00:13:00] one that noticed

[00:13:01] this.

[00:13:03] Obviously,

[00:13:03] there were others

[00:13:04] who have done

[00:13:05] some research

[00:13:06] on this whole

[00:13:07] series of events.

[00:13:08] But,

[00:13:09] at any rate,

[00:13:11] High Strangeness,

[00:13:12] 1947.

[00:13:14] Let's continue on.

[00:13:16] On June 21st,

[00:13:18] 1947,

[00:13:19] the summer solstice,

[00:13:20] six unidentified

[00:13:21] flying objects

[00:13:22] were seen over

[00:13:23] Maury Island

[00:13:24] in Puget Sound

[00:13:25] in the state

[00:13:26] of Washington.

[00:13:27] The observers

[00:13:28] were Harold A.

[00:13:29] Dahl,

[00:13:30] a harbor patrolman

[00:13:31] who was avoiding

[00:13:32] bad weather

[00:13:32] by anchoring

[00:13:33] in Maury Island Bay,

[00:13:34] his two crewmen,

[00:13:36] his teenage son,

[00:13:37] and a dog.

[00:13:38] The objects

[00:13:39] were donut-shaped

[00:13:40] and were hovering

[00:13:41] at about 2,000 feet

[00:13:43] over the boat,

[00:13:44] according to Dahl.

[00:13:46] One of the six

[00:13:47] seemed to be

[00:13:48] in trouble

[00:13:48] as it was

[00:13:50] losing altitude

[00:13:51] and was being

[00:13:51] circled

[00:13:52] by the other five.

[00:13:53] The objects

[00:13:54] seemed to be

[00:13:55] metallic

[00:13:56] with a hole

[00:13:56] in the center,

[00:13:57] hence the idea

[00:13:58] that they were

[00:13:59] donut-shaped,

[00:14:00] and with portholes

[00:14:02] around the

[00:14:02] outer circumference.

[00:14:04] Each of the objects

[00:14:05] seemed to be

[00:14:06] about 100 feet

[00:14:07] in diameter.

[00:14:09] I'm going to pause

[00:14:10] for a moment here,

[00:14:11] folks.

[00:14:11] Perhaps some of you

[00:14:12] are not familiar

[00:14:13] with the

[00:14:14] Maury Island incident.

[00:14:15] This predated

[00:14:17] the Roswell incident

[00:14:19] and, of course,

[00:14:20] the sighting

[00:14:21] by Kenneth Arnold.

[00:14:23] Predated both

[00:14:24] of those events

[00:14:25] in 1947.

[00:14:26] This one has not

[00:14:27] had as much

[00:14:28] coverage as Roswell.

[00:14:30] It's an interesting

[00:14:31] one, and some say

[00:14:32] that Dahl later

[00:14:33] came forward

[00:14:34] and admitted

[00:14:35] that it was a hoax.

[00:14:38] Admitted the whole

[00:14:38] thing was a hoax.

[00:14:40] I'm not so certain

[00:14:41] about that,

[00:14:43] but I'm also

[00:14:44] not so certain

[00:14:45] about the truthfulness

[00:14:46] of the event

[00:14:47] either.

[00:14:47] This was an

[00:14:49] interesting one.

[00:14:51] But once again,

[00:14:52] this is one of those

[00:14:53] things that's been

[00:14:53] obfuscated through

[00:14:55] time.

[00:14:57] Been obfuscated

[00:14:58] through time.

[00:15:00] We don't know

[00:15:01] exactly what

[00:15:02] happened

[00:15:03] or what the

[00:15:05] circumstances

[00:15:05] really were.

[00:15:06] It's one of those

[00:15:07] things that's

[00:15:08] developed into

[00:15:08] its own

[00:15:09] mythology.

[00:15:11] And as such,

[00:15:14] mythologies

[00:15:15] tend to be

[00:15:16] upheld

[00:15:18] by many

[00:15:18] who research

[00:15:19] these things.

[00:15:22] And it

[00:15:22] drives

[00:15:24] very much

[00:15:26] directly

[00:15:26] along with

[00:15:27] the whole

[00:15:28] UFO mythos

[00:15:29] that's developed

[00:15:30] since that time.

[00:15:31] The flying

[00:15:33] saucer mythos.

[00:15:34] Let's continue

[00:15:35] reading, though,

[00:15:36] and it tells us

[00:15:37] more about

[00:15:38] what happened

[00:15:39] in this event.

[00:15:40] And this is actually

[00:15:41] a pretty good

[00:15:41] retelling of the story.

[00:15:42] I am familiar

[00:15:43] with it.

[00:15:44] Some of you

[00:15:44] may not be.

[00:15:45] But Lavenda

[00:15:47] gives a very good

[00:15:48] retelling here.

[00:15:49] So let's continue.

[00:15:50] There was a small

[00:15:52] explosion and one

[00:15:53] of the objects

[00:15:53] rained hot metal

[00:15:54] all over the boat,

[00:15:55] killing the dog,

[00:15:57] damaging the boat

[00:15:58] and injuring

[00:15:58] the teenage son.

[00:16:00] Dahl quickly

[00:16:01] beached his craft

[00:16:02] and began taking

[00:16:03] pictures of the

[00:16:03] objects, which

[00:16:04] soon took off

[00:16:05] and headed towards

[00:16:06] Canada.

[00:16:07] Dahl tried to radio

[00:16:08] for help or to

[00:16:09] make a report,

[00:16:10] but his radio

[00:16:11] was jammed.

[00:16:12] Instead,

[00:16:13] bewildered,

[00:16:13] he headed back

[00:16:14] to Tacoma.

[00:16:16] He got some

[00:16:16] treatment for his

[00:16:17] son's injured arm

[00:16:18] and then took

[00:16:20] his evidence,

[00:16:20] the camera,

[00:16:21] the film,

[00:16:21] and some samples

[00:16:22] of the metallic

[00:16:23] slag to his

[00:16:24] boss, a man

[00:16:25] known as Fred

[00:16:27] Lee Crisman.

[00:16:29] Fred Lee

[00:16:30] Crisman.

[00:16:31] Remember those

[00:16:32] names, folks.

[00:16:33] We have

[00:16:34] Harold Dahl.

[00:16:35] Fred Lee

[00:16:36] Crisman.

[00:16:37] And of course,

[00:16:37] we'll see later

[00:16:38] that Mr.

[00:16:39] Dahl has

[00:16:42] associations with

[00:16:43] Mr.

[00:16:43] Kenneth

[00:16:44] Arnold.

[00:16:45] Let's read

[00:16:46] on.

[00:16:47] This is a seminal

[00:16:48] event.

[00:16:49] No matter on what

[00:16:50] side of the

[00:16:50] Kennedy assassination

[00:16:51] one finds

[00:16:52] oneself, a believer

[00:16:53] in the Warren

[00:16:54] report or a

[00:16:55] believer in a

[00:16:56] conspiracy, the

[00:16:57] Fred Crisman

[00:16:58] element strains

[00:16:59] credulity.

[00:17:00] More than 20

[00:17:01] years after this

[00:17:02] event, Crisman

[00:17:03] will be subpoenaed

[00:17:04] by District

[00:17:04] Attorney Jim

[00:17:05] Garrison as a

[00:17:06] suspect in the

[00:17:07] assassination of

[00:17:08] President John

[00:17:09] F.

[00:17:09] Kennedy.

[00:17:10] I'm going to

[00:17:10] pause for a

[00:17:11] moment here,

[00:17:11] folks.

[00:17:12] What a

[00:17:12] coincidence,

[00:17:13] huh?

[00:17:14] What a

[00:17:15] coincidence.

[00:17:17] Isn't it

[00:17:17] strange how

[00:17:18] all these

[00:17:18] historical events

[00:17:20] always have some

[00:17:21] kind of tie

[00:17:22] together in

[00:17:24] these types of

[00:17:24] ways?

[00:17:27] The

[00:17:27] synchromystic.

[00:17:28] This is what I

[00:17:29] like to explore.

[00:17:31] These synchromystic

[00:17:33] connections because

[00:17:34] they're found

[00:17:35] everywhere throughout

[00:17:38] history, connecting

[00:17:39] certain people to

[00:17:40] certain events.

[00:17:41] And it's strange

[00:17:43] how that happens.

[00:17:45] You have to

[00:17:46] wonder what's

[00:17:47] going on with

[00:17:48] this.

[00:17:48] This is part of

[00:17:49] what I like to

[00:17:50] call the

[00:17:50] synchromystic

[00:17:51] metadata that

[00:17:53] undergirds the

[00:17:54] field, the

[00:17:54] information field,

[00:17:55] all around us.

[00:17:57] And if you

[00:17:58] learn to read the

[00:17:58] synchromystic

[00:17:59] metadata, you

[00:18:00] learn how to

[00:18:01] connect the

[00:18:02] dots.

[00:18:03] And read it,

[00:18:04] you get a more

[00:18:05] accurate picture of

[00:18:06] what is called

[00:18:07] the zeitgeist or

[00:18:08] the spirit of

[00:18:09] the time.

[00:18:10] And we see

[00:18:12] the spirit of

[00:18:13] the time began to

[00:18:14] shift in 1947.

[00:18:16] And of course,

[00:18:17] we've had some

[00:18:18] shifts since

[00:18:19] 1947 again,

[00:18:22] but always

[00:18:23] shifting ever

[00:18:24] closer to a

[00:18:28] type of

[00:18:29] goal.

[00:18:30] An end game.

[00:18:32] And of course,

[00:18:33] the shift in

[00:18:34] 1947 was a big

[00:18:35] one, and we

[00:18:36] saw more shifts

[00:18:37] in the 1960s.

[00:18:38] And of course,

[00:18:39] the big shift in

[00:18:40] 2001, and we

[00:18:41] saw a shift in

[00:18:42] 2020 as well.

[00:18:45] We have these

[00:18:46] shifts that go on

[00:18:47] periodically.

[00:18:49] And I'm sure

[00:18:50] there were probably

[00:18:50] more in between

[00:18:52] all of those,

[00:18:52] and perhaps they

[00:18:53] were slightly

[00:18:54] less noticeable,

[00:18:55] but I'm talking

[00:18:56] about these are

[00:18:57] some big shifts

[00:18:58] in the zeitgeist

[00:18:59] or spirit of

[00:19:00] the time that

[00:19:01] happened.

[00:19:02] And if you could

[00:19:03] connect the dots,

[00:19:04] you could see how

[00:19:05] one shift leads

[00:19:06] to another.

[00:19:07] So this shift in

[00:19:08] 1947 led directly

[00:19:10] to a shift in

[00:19:10] 1963.

[00:19:14] And later,

[00:19:16] again in the

[00:19:16] 1960s, the

[00:19:17] 1960s were a

[00:19:18] pivotal decade for

[00:19:21] the shifting of

[00:19:21] the zeitgeist in

[00:19:22] many ways.

[00:19:25] But let's not

[00:19:26] get ahead of

[00:19:27] ourselves.

[00:19:27] We're talking

[00:19:28] about 1948,

[00:19:29] 1947 here.

[00:19:30] So we see

[00:19:31] this when you

[00:19:32] flash forward

[00:19:33] ahead.

[00:19:36] When you flash

[00:19:37] forward ahead,

[00:19:38] you see here

[00:19:38] that this

[00:19:40] Crisman fellow

[00:19:41] was subpoenaed

[00:19:42] as a suspect

[00:19:44] in the

[00:19:45] assassination of

[00:19:46] President John

[00:19:47] F. Kennedy.

[00:19:48] Let's continue

[00:19:49] reading on.

[00:19:50] Why is this?

[00:19:51] What's so

[00:19:51] interesting about

[00:19:52] this?

[00:19:53] Next sentence

[00:19:55] tells the tale

[00:19:55] fairly well.

[00:19:58] Crisman,

[00:19:58] a former

[00:19:59] OSS officer,

[00:20:01] a man with

[00:20:01] a CIA file,

[00:20:03] a man friendly

[00:20:04] with Clay

[00:20:05] Shaw,

[00:20:06] in at the

[00:20:07] birth of the

[00:20:08] 20th century's

[00:20:08] UFO experience.

[00:20:10] Of course,

[00:20:10] this is not

[00:20:11] the full story.

[00:20:12] Who would

[00:20:12] believe the

[00:20:13] full story?

[00:20:14] Going to

[00:20:14] pause for a

[00:20:15] moment here,

[00:20:15] folks.

[00:20:16] So Crisman,

[00:20:18] Fred Crisman

[00:20:20] was a former

[00:20:21] OSS officer,

[00:20:23] the OSS being

[00:20:24] the precursor

[00:20:25] to the CIA.

[00:20:25] CIA.

[00:20:27] And if you

[00:20:28] know anything

[00:20:28] about the

[00:20:28] CIA,

[00:20:30] you can know

[00:20:31] a little

[00:20:31] something about

[00:20:32] the OSS,

[00:20:33] its predecessor.

[00:20:34] If you know

[00:20:35] anything about

[00:20:36] the CIA,

[00:20:37] you understand

[00:20:37] that anybody

[00:20:38] who's called

[00:20:39] former CIA

[00:20:40] is still

[00:20:41] CIA.

[00:20:42] You don't

[00:20:43] ever leave

[00:20:44] the agency.

[00:20:45] Even if you're

[00:20:45] retired,

[00:20:46] you still

[00:20:47] kind of have

[00:20:48] a comeuppance

[00:20:49] that you owe

[00:20:50] them.

[00:20:50] So you do

[00:20:51] what you're

[00:20:52] supposed to.

[00:20:52] You're still

[00:20:53] a company man,

[00:20:54] even in your

[00:20:55] retirement.

[00:20:56] So the same

[00:20:56] thing can be

[00:20:57] applied to

[00:20:57] the OSS

[00:20:58] logically.

[00:20:59] So Crisman

[00:21:02] essentially

[00:21:03] worked for

[00:21:03] the intelligence

[00:21:04] agencies.

[00:21:06] Let's go

[00:21:07] ahead and

[00:21:07] read on

[00:21:08] because,

[00:21:08] of course,

[00:21:08] Lavenda hints

[00:21:09] here who

[00:21:10] would believe

[00:21:10] the full

[00:21:11] story.

[00:21:13] Crisman

[00:21:13] wanted to

[00:21:14] investigate the

[00:21:15] site where

[00:21:15] Paul's boat

[00:21:16] was damaged.

[00:21:17] But the

[00:21:18] previous night,

[00:21:18] a stranger

[00:21:19] visited

[00:21:19] Dahl at

[00:21:20] his home

[00:21:21] and advised

[00:21:22] him to

[00:21:22] forget the

[00:21:23] whole thing.

[00:21:23] The man

[00:21:24] was dressed

[00:21:25] in black

[00:21:25] and what

[00:21:26] was unusual

[00:21:27] was the

[00:21:28] fact that

[00:21:28] the incident

[00:21:29] had not yet

[00:21:30] been reported

[00:21:30] outside of

[00:21:31] Dahl's and

[00:21:32] Crisman's

[00:21:32] circle.

[00:21:33] Regardless,

[00:21:34] the next

[00:21:34] day on

[00:21:35] June 23,

[00:21:36] 1947,

[00:21:37] Crisman

[00:21:37] went out

[00:21:38] to Mari Island

[00:21:39] and found

[00:21:39] what appeared

[00:21:40] to be molten

[00:21:40] glass or

[00:21:41] metal and

[00:21:42] foil,

[00:21:43] but not

[00:21:43] before another

[00:21:44] UFO passed

[00:21:46] overhead.

[00:21:47] Crisman

[00:21:48] returned to

[00:21:48] Tacoma,

[00:21:49] not knowing

[00:21:50] what to do

[00:21:50] at the

[00:21:51] moment with

[00:21:52] the information

[00:21:52] and evidence

[00:21:53] he had

[00:21:53] acquired,

[00:21:54] or so it

[00:21:55] seemed.

[00:21:56] So far,

[00:21:56] the UFO

[00:21:57] sighting was

[00:21:58] a localized

[00:21:58] event,

[00:21:59] a small

[00:21:59] town anomaly.

[00:22:00] going to

[00:22:01] pause for a

[00:22:02] moment here,

[00:22:03] folks.

[00:22:03] That's if you

[00:22:03] believe the

[00:22:05] story.

[00:22:06] So Crisman

[00:22:07] goes back

[00:22:07] with Dahl,

[00:22:09] studies the

[00:22:10] boat,

[00:22:11] finds some

[00:22:11] of this

[00:22:12] molten

[00:22:13] metal that

[00:22:14] now looks

[00:22:14] like glass

[00:22:15] or metal

[00:22:15] and foil,

[00:22:17] and another

[00:22:18] UFO passes

[00:22:19] overhead.

[00:22:20] What a

[00:22:21] coincidence right

[00:22:22] there, huh?

[00:22:24] So if you

[00:22:25] believe this

[00:22:25] or not,

[00:22:26] it doesn't

[00:22:27] matter.

[00:22:27] This is what's

[00:22:28] in the

[00:22:28] historical

[00:22:28] context

[00:22:29] here,

[00:22:29] part of

[00:22:29] the high

[00:22:30] strangeness

[00:22:31] of that

[00:22:32] time period,

[00:22:32] and of

[00:22:33] course this

[00:22:33] is the

[00:22:33] first,

[00:22:37] to my

[00:22:37] knowledge,

[00:22:39] encounter

[00:22:40] with the

[00:22:41] men in

[00:22:41] black.

[00:22:43] I think

[00:22:44] there may

[00:22:44] have been

[00:22:44] some other

[00:22:45] encounters

[00:22:45] prior to

[00:22:46] this with

[00:22:47] the phenomenon

[00:22:48] known as

[00:22:48] the men in

[00:22:49] black by

[00:22:50] those who

[00:22:50] have

[00:22:50] experienced

[00:22:51] some

[00:22:51] encounter

[00:22:52] with UFOs.

[00:22:54] There might

[00:22:55] be one or

[00:22:55] two that

[00:22:56] predate this,

[00:22:57] but this is

[00:22:57] probably one

[00:22:58] of the most

[00:22:59] important or

[00:23:00] noteworthy

[00:23:01] ones in

[00:23:02] the early

[00:23:03] UFO investigation

[00:23:04] field here.

[00:23:06] This is where

[00:23:07] a lot of

[00:23:07] this began,

[00:23:08] these stories.

[00:23:10] Let's continue

[00:23:11] reading here.

[00:23:12] The next day,

[00:23:13] June 24,

[00:23:14] 1947,

[00:23:15] the world

[00:23:16] changed.

[00:23:18] This was

[00:23:18] the day of

[00:23:19] the famous

[00:23:19] sighting of

[00:23:20] nine UFOs

[00:23:21] north of

[00:23:22] Mount Rainier

[00:23:22] by Kenneth

[00:23:23] Arnold.

[00:23:25] One of the

[00:23:25] accusations

[00:23:26] leveled at

[00:23:27] UFO eyewitnesses

[00:23:28] is that their

[00:23:29] testimony is

[00:23:29] tainted by

[00:23:30] reason of

[00:23:31] their inexperience,

[00:23:32] lack of

[00:23:32] professionalism,

[00:23:33] lack of

[00:23:34] knowledge of

[00:23:34] astronomical

[00:23:35] phenomena,

[00:23:36] etc.

[00:23:37] In other

[00:23:38] words,

[00:23:38] they are not

[00:23:39] scientists or

[00:23:40] members of

[00:23:40] the military,

[00:23:41] police,

[00:23:42] or government

[00:23:42] establishments,

[00:23:43] the people in

[00:23:44] charge of

[00:23:45] determining the

[00:23:45] contours of

[00:23:46] our reality.

[00:23:48] The problem

[00:23:49] with the

[00:23:49] Kenneth

[00:23:49] Arnold case

[00:23:50] is that he

[00:23:52] was the

[00:23:52] perfect witness.

[00:23:54] A successful

[00:23:55] businessman from

[00:23:56] Boise,

[00:23:57] Idaho,

[00:23:57] he was also

[00:23:58] a deputy

[00:23:59] federal marshal

[00:24:00] and an

[00:24:01] accomplished

[00:24:01] pilot who

[00:24:02] was a

[00:24:02] member of

[00:24:03] an Idaho

[00:24:04] search and

[00:24:04] rescue team.

[00:24:05] In other

[00:24:06] words,

[00:24:07] if Kenneth

[00:24:08] Arnold said

[00:24:09] that he

[00:24:10] saw UFOs,

[00:24:11] then he

[00:24:11] saw UFOs,

[00:24:12] not the

[00:24:12] planet Venus

[00:24:13] or swamp

[00:24:14] gas or

[00:24:14] weather balloons.

[00:24:16] This is

[00:24:17] not to say

[00:24:18] that what he

[00:24:18] saw was an

[00:24:19] alien spacecraft,

[00:24:20] but what he

[00:24:21] witnessed was

[00:24:22] not conventional

[00:24:22] aircraft and

[00:24:23] the speeds at

[00:24:24] which he

[00:24:24] clocked them

[00:24:25] were not

[00:24:26] achievable by

[00:24:27] the types of

[00:24:27] aircraft he

[00:24:28] knew to be in

[00:24:29] existence at

[00:24:29] that time.

[00:24:31] In the air

[00:24:32] on his way

[00:24:33] home to

[00:24:33] Idaho from

[00:24:34] Washington,

[00:24:35] he spent a

[00:24:36] while looking

[00:24:36] for a missing

[00:24:37] C-46 transport

[00:24:39] plane for

[00:24:39] which there

[00:24:40] was a large

[00:24:41] $5,000 reward.

[00:24:43] The plane

[00:24:44] was believed

[00:24:44] to be downed

[00:24:45] in the

[00:24:45] Cascade Mountains

[00:24:46] of Washington

[00:24:47] State.

[00:24:48] Then, at the

[00:24:49] same time as

[00:24:50] the Harold

[00:24:50] Dahl sighting

[00:24:52] three days

[00:24:52] previously,

[00:24:53] at 2 p.m.,

[00:24:54] Arnold was

[00:24:55] flying at an

[00:24:56] altitude of

[00:24:57] about 9,000

[00:24:58] feet when he

[00:24:59] saw a bright

[00:25:00] flash that

[00:25:01] bathed his

[00:25:01] aircraft in

[00:25:02] light.

[00:25:03] Trying to

[00:25:04] spot the

[00:25:04] source of

[00:25:05] the flash,

[00:25:06] he soon saw

[00:25:07] another coming

[00:25:08] from north

[00:25:09] of Mount

[00:25:09] Rainier.

[00:25:11] This time,

[00:25:12] the source of

[00:25:12] the flash was

[00:25:13] a formation of

[00:25:14] nine objects

[00:25:15] flying erratically

[00:25:16] but maintaining

[00:25:17] formation like

[00:25:19] speedboats on

[00:25:20] rough water.

[00:25:21] He clocked the

[00:25:22] speed of the

[00:25:23] objects as they

[00:25:23] passed Mount

[00:25:24] Rainier at

[00:25:25] nearly 1,700

[00:25:26] miles per hour

[00:25:28] in impossible

[00:25:28] speed for

[00:25:29] known aircraft

[00:25:30] of the time.

[00:25:31] Going to pause

[00:25:32] for a moment

[00:25:32] here, folks.

[00:25:33] So Kenneth

[00:25:34] Arnold clocked

[00:25:35] their speed,

[00:25:36] and this is all

[00:25:37] based on estimates

[00:25:38] by the way.

[00:25:40] Not to try to

[00:25:42] discredit Arnold

[00:25:43] in any way here.

[00:25:45] But he must

[00:25:46] have assumed

[00:25:47] the size of

[00:25:48] the craft.

[00:25:49] And making

[00:25:50] assumptions about

[00:25:51] the size of

[00:25:52] the craft and

[00:25:52] the distance

[00:25:53] that they

[00:25:53] traveled, he

[00:25:55] did a

[00:25:55] rudimentary

[00:25:57] type of

[00:25:57] mathematics in

[00:25:58] his head and

[00:25:59] formulated that

[00:26:00] they must have

[00:26:01] been going

[00:26:01] about 1,700

[00:26:02] miles per hour.

[00:26:05] Not necessarily

[00:26:07] an accurate

[00:26:07] estimate of

[00:26:08] speed because

[00:26:08] you really don't

[00:26:09] know how large

[00:26:10] these craft are

[00:26:11] or how far

[00:26:13] away they really

[00:26:14] are based

[00:26:14] upon optics.

[00:26:16] So this was

[00:26:17] based upon a lot

[00:26:18] of guesswork

[00:26:19] first and

[00:26:19] foremost.

[00:26:20] So regardless

[00:26:21] of what he

[00:26:22] saw, you can't

[00:26:22] really take

[00:26:23] these estimates

[00:26:24] of speed as

[00:26:25] being totally

[00:26:26] accurate.

[00:26:26] Now he was

[00:26:28] a trained

[00:26:28] pilot and he

[00:26:29] was trained

[00:26:30] as an

[00:26:31] observer with

[00:26:32] a lot of

[00:26:33] things, so

[00:26:33] that does

[00:26:34] give more

[00:26:34] credence and

[00:26:35] credibility to

[00:26:35] what he had

[00:26:36] to say.

[00:26:37] But let's

[00:26:38] read on and

[00:26:38] hear the rest

[00:26:39] of the story,

[00:26:40] shall we?

[00:26:41] Arnold landed

[00:26:42] and spoke

[00:26:43] about his

[00:26:43] experience.

[00:26:44] The initial

[00:26:45] speculation was

[00:26:46] that he was

[00:26:46] witnessing secret

[00:26:47] weapons tests,

[00:26:48] but later in

[00:26:50] an interview

[00:26:51] that night with

[00:26:52] the East

[00:26:53] Oregonian

[00:26:53] newspaper, he

[00:26:54] described the

[00:26:55] motion of the

[00:26:56] objects like a

[00:26:57] saucer would if

[00:26:58] you skipped it

[00:26:58] across the water,

[00:26:59] meaning the way

[00:27:00] the objects flew

[00:27:01] and not the way

[00:27:03] they looked.

[00:27:04] No matter,

[00:27:05] from that day

[00:27:06] on, the flying

[00:27:07] saucer was

[00:27:07] born.

[00:27:08] We're going to

[00:27:08] pause for a

[00:27:09] moment here,

[00:27:09] folks.

[00:27:10] This is where

[00:27:11] the term

[00:27:11] flying saucer

[00:27:12] comes from,

[00:27:13] and this is

[00:27:13] what they were

[00:27:14] known as

[00:27:14] before they

[00:27:15] were UFOs,

[00:27:18] or UAPs,

[00:27:19] for that matter.

[00:27:21] Flying saucers,

[00:27:23] because of

[00:27:24] Arnold's

[00:27:25] testimony here.

[00:27:26] He said it

[00:27:27] looked like as

[00:27:27] if you had

[00:27:28] a saucer and

[00:27:29] you skipped

[00:27:29] it across

[00:27:30] the water.

[00:27:30] That's how

[00:27:31] they flew.

[00:27:34] Let's read

[00:27:34] on.

[00:27:36] The story

[00:27:36] should have

[00:27:37] ended there

[00:27:37] and then.

[00:27:38] Arnold had

[00:27:39] no hard

[00:27:40] evidence for

[00:27:40] the sighting,

[00:27:41] only his own

[00:27:42] eyewitness

[00:27:43] experience.

[00:27:44] Yet, he was

[00:27:45] visited in

[00:27:45] early July by

[00:27:47] two military

[00:27:47] intelligence

[00:27:48] officers,

[00:27:49] Captain William

[00:27:50] Davidson and

[00:27:50] Lieutenant Frank

[00:27:51] M. Brown of

[00:27:53] the 4th Air

[00:27:53] Force,

[00:27:54] Hamilton Field,

[00:27:55] California.

[00:27:56] They listened to

[00:27:57] his story and

[00:27:57] then returned to

[00:27:58] base.

[00:27:59] Again, the story

[00:28:01] should have

[00:28:01] ended there.

[00:28:03] Fred Crisman,

[00:28:04] however, had other

[00:28:05] ideas.

[00:28:05] Going to pause

[00:28:06] for a moment

[00:28:07] here, folks.

[00:28:08] So, Fred

[00:28:08] Crisman, the

[00:28:09] OSS officer,

[00:28:10] the intelligence

[00:28:11] guy, had

[00:28:14] some other

[00:28:14] plans, sought

[00:28:17] to pursue this

[00:28:18] alleged sighting

[00:28:19] a little further.

[00:28:22] This sighting,

[00:28:23] without any hard

[00:28:24] evidence to back

[00:28:24] it up, there

[00:28:25] were no

[00:28:25] photographs,

[00:28:26] there was no

[00:28:27] radar information,

[00:28:29] nothing, just

[00:28:30] Arnold's testimony

[00:28:32] that he saw it.

[00:28:33] And that's not

[00:28:34] to say that

[00:28:34] Arnold was

[00:28:35] lying.

[00:28:36] I don't think

[00:28:37] necessarily that's

[00:28:38] the case.

[00:28:40] But what was

[00:28:42] it he saw?

[00:28:43] I think maybe

[00:28:44] he was more

[00:28:44] spot on with

[00:28:45] what he was

[00:28:46] seeing with

[00:28:47] his initial

[00:28:47] assessment.

[00:28:50] Maybe some

[00:28:50] type of new

[00:28:51] weapons or

[00:28:52] aircraft under

[00:28:53] development.

[00:28:55] If it was

[00:28:56] really something

[00:28:57] there and not

[00:28:58] an optical

[00:28:58] phenomenon of

[00:28:59] some sort.

[00:29:01] But let's

[00:29:02] continue reading

[00:29:03] and let's see

[00:29:03] what else we

[00:29:05] find out about

[00:29:05] this.

[00:29:06] So now remember

[00:29:07] Fred Chrisman

[00:29:08] had other

[00:29:09] ideas, even

[00:29:10] though it

[00:29:11] probably would

[00:29:11] have been left

[00:29:12] alone at that

[00:29:13] point, had not

[00:29:15] this guy got

[00:29:15] involved.

[00:29:16] His relationship

[00:29:17] to Raymond A.

[00:29:18] Palmer, the

[00:29:19] editor of

[00:29:19] Amazing Stories,

[00:29:20] is full of

[00:29:21] unanswered

[00:29:22] questions.

[00:29:23] Why this

[00:29:24] former OSS

[00:29:25] officer and

[00:29:26] harbor patrolman

[00:29:27] would be involved

[00:29:28] with a man who

[00:29:29] published fantasy

[00:29:30] tales of underground

[00:29:31] civilizations,

[00:29:32] weird military

[00:29:33] experiments, such

[00:29:34] as the

[00:29:35] Philadelphia

[00:29:35] experiment in

[00:29:36] which it was

[00:29:37] claimed the

[00:29:38] military had

[00:29:38] developed a

[00:29:39] device that

[00:29:40] could dematerialize

[00:29:41] a ship and

[00:29:41] then rematerialize

[00:29:42] it somewhere else

[00:29:43] on earth.

[00:29:44] A story that

[00:29:45] was later

[00:29:45] believed to be

[00:29:46] true by an

[00:29:47] astonishing number

[00:29:48] of persons and

[00:29:49] mischievous aliens

[00:29:50] from other worlds

[00:29:51] is not clear.

[00:29:52] Going to pause

[00:29:52] for a moment here

[00:29:53] folks.

[00:29:54] So, an

[00:29:55] OSS officer,

[00:29:57] good friends

[00:29:58] with a man

[00:30:00] who tells a

[00:30:01] lot of

[00:30:01] fantasy

[00:30:02] stories,

[00:30:03] science

[00:30:04] fiction

[00:30:04] stories,

[00:30:06] you know,

[00:30:07] the type

[00:30:07] involved in

[00:30:08] social engineering

[00:30:10] of a culture.

[00:30:13] That type.

[00:30:14] Why wouldn't

[00:30:16] intelligence be

[00:30:16] involved with

[00:30:17] social engineers?

[00:30:20] Think it

[00:30:21] through.

[00:30:22] But anyway,

[00:30:23] let's read on.

[00:30:24] Like fellow

[00:30:25] OSS officer

[00:30:26] Peter Tompkins,

[00:30:27] after him,

[00:30:28] Crisman may

[00:30:29] simply have

[00:30:30] been fascinated

[00:30:31] by the

[00:30:31] paranormal and

[00:30:33] by speculative

[00:30:33] history,

[00:30:34] or his

[00:30:35] interest may

[00:30:36] reveal a

[00:30:36] slightly more

[00:30:37] sinister

[00:30:38] agenda.

[00:30:39] Speculation is

[00:30:40] rampant that

[00:30:41] Crisman's role

[00:30:42] was that of a

[00:30:43] disinformation

[00:30:43] specialist and

[00:30:45] that his

[00:30:45] ultimate purpose

[00:30:46] was to devalue

[00:30:47] the UFO reports

[00:30:48] or failing that

[00:30:50] to erase all

[00:30:50] traces of the

[00:30:51] evidence.

[00:30:52] Going to

[00:30:52] pause for a

[00:30:53] moment here folks.

[00:30:54] Sounds logical

[00:30:55] to me,

[00:30:56] don't you think?

[00:30:58] involved with

[00:31:00] some science

[00:31:00] fiction writers,

[00:31:02] involved with

[00:31:03] intelligence services

[00:31:05] and takes a

[00:31:06] particular interest

[00:31:08] in Kenneth

[00:31:08] Arnold's testimony

[00:31:10] because he was

[00:31:12] a credible witness

[00:31:13] and perhaps

[00:31:14] this guy,

[00:31:16] Crisman,

[00:31:16] knew something

[00:31:17] more about

[00:31:19] these phenomena

[00:31:20] and the

[00:31:21] phenomena reported

[00:31:23] at the

[00:31:23] Maury Island

[00:31:24] incident here as

[00:31:25] well.

[00:31:25] if that was

[00:31:27] a real event

[00:31:28] or it could

[00:31:28] just be something

[00:31:29] that was

[00:31:30] fancifully made

[00:31:31] up to support

[00:31:32] this notion

[00:31:34] of flying saucers

[00:31:35] being perhaps

[00:31:36] of extraterrestrial

[00:31:37] nature or

[00:31:39] plain and simple

[00:31:41] it's not a

[00:31:42] weapon system

[00:31:43] we're developing

[00:31:43] so maybe

[00:31:45] that's the case

[00:31:46] maybe it's not

[00:31:47] I don't know

[00:31:48] there's so much

[00:31:49] that's been lost

[00:31:50] into the mythology

[00:31:52] of all of this

[00:31:52] now and we're

[00:31:54] separated by

[00:31:54] time and

[00:31:56] distance and

[00:31:58] the cultural

[00:31:59] background of

[00:32:00] the time

[00:32:00] so it's hard

[00:32:02] to really

[00:32:03] establish

[00:32:03] motives

[00:32:04] for something

[00:32:06] like this

[00:32:07] at the time

[00:32:07] we can look

[00:32:08] and see

[00:32:09] what are

[00:32:10] potential motives

[00:32:11] that could have

[00:32:11] come into being

[00:32:12] and what

[00:32:13] potential

[00:32:13] directions this

[00:32:15] could have gone

[00:32:16] and explore those

[00:32:17] avenues of thought

[00:32:18] and that's what

[00:32:19] we're doing here

[00:32:20] so there's so

[00:32:22] much more to the

[00:32:22] story than this

[00:32:23] so the 1947

[00:32:26] events

[00:32:28] UFO events in

[00:32:29] particular

[00:32:30] these events of

[00:32:31] high strangeness

[00:32:33] they're questionable

[00:32:34] at best

[00:32:35] we really don't

[00:32:36] know what all

[00:32:38] happened

[00:32:39] during that time

[00:32:40] now we have all

[00:32:41] the stories that

[00:32:42] have come forward

[00:32:43] today and some

[00:32:44] have been partially

[00:32:45] fictionalized in

[00:32:46] many ways as we

[00:32:47] see here

[00:32:48] and some might

[00:32:50] call that

[00:32:50] obfuscation

[00:32:52] and perhaps

[00:32:53] some of it's

[00:32:54] true

[00:32:54] it's just hard

[00:32:56] to get to the

[00:32:56] bottom of what's

[00:32:57] true and what's

[00:32:58] false with these

[00:32:59] notions

[00:33:01] but let's continue

[00:33:02] reading here

[00:33:03] Chrisman contacted

[00:33:04] Palmer in writing

[00:33:05] concerning the

[00:33:06] Maury Island

[00:33:07] incident

[00:33:07] Palmer himself

[00:33:09] had contacted

[00:33:10] Arnold about

[00:33:11] the Mount

[00:33:11] Rainier sighting

[00:33:12] offering a

[00:33:13] $200 advance

[00:33:14] for his story

[00:33:15] these were only

[00:33:17] two of a large

[00:33:18] number of UFO

[00:33:19] sightings that

[00:33:19] were taking place

[00:33:20] that month

[00:33:21] and into July

[00:33:22] on the 4th of

[00:33:24] July at about

[00:33:25] 1127 p.m.

[00:33:26] the infamous

[00:33:27] Roswell crash

[00:33:28] took place

[00:33:28] and the first

[00:33:29] newspaper reports

[00:33:30] called the device

[00:33:31] a flying saucer

[00:33:33] thus reference

[00:33:34] was made to the

[00:33:35] Arnold sighting

[00:33:36] in which that

[00:33:36] term was first

[00:33:38] employed to

[00:33:38] describe a UFO

[00:33:39] on that same

[00:33:41] day however

[00:33:42] there were no

[00:33:42] less than 85

[00:33:44] sightings in the

[00:33:45] United States

[00:33:46] the Roswell

[00:33:47] crash was only

[00:33:48] one instance

[00:33:49] of a sighting

[00:33:50] clearly

[00:33:51] interest was

[00:33:52] at an all

[00:33:52] time high

[00:33:53] and opinion

[00:33:53] was divided

[00:33:54] as to whether

[00:33:55] the craft

[00:33:56] were of

[00:33:56] Soviet

[00:33:57] manufacture

[00:33:57] a captured

[00:33:59] Nazi secret

[00:34:00] weapon

[00:34:00] an American

[00:34:01] secret weapon

[00:34:02] or

[00:34:02] and this

[00:34:03] was by no

[00:34:04] means the

[00:34:05] most prevalent

[00:34:05] concept

[00:34:06] an alien

[00:34:07] spacecraft

[00:34:08] gonna pause

[00:34:09] for a moment

[00:34:09] here folks

[00:34:10] so the folks

[00:34:11] in 1947

[00:34:12] had a little

[00:34:13] more common

[00:34:13] sense

[00:34:14] than what

[00:34:15] we've been

[00:34:16] engineered

[00:34:16] to have

[00:34:17] today

[00:34:19] they looked

[00:34:20] up in the

[00:34:20] sky

[00:34:20] they saw

[00:34:21] something

[00:34:21] that clearly

[00:34:22] looked like

[00:34:22] a mechanical

[00:34:23] device

[00:34:23] and they

[00:34:24] said

[00:34:25] hey there's

[00:34:26] a mechanical

[00:34:27] device

[00:34:27] I know

[00:34:28] there's human

[00:34:29] beings here

[00:34:30] that make

[00:34:30] mechanical

[00:34:31] devices

[00:34:31] some human

[00:34:32] being likely

[00:34:33] built that

[00:34:34] thing

[00:34:35] instead of

[00:34:36] looking in

[00:34:37] the sky

[00:34:37] and saying

[00:34:38] hey there's

[00:34:38] this strange

[00:34:39] device I don't

[00:34:40] understand up

[00:34:41] there

[00:34:41] this clearly

[00:34:43] machine looking

[00:34:44] device I don't

[00:34:45] understand that

[00:34:47] that probably

[00:34:48] some other

[00:34:48] human being

[00:34:49] built

[00:34:50] they don't

[00:34:51] look up there

[00:34:52] and say

[00:34:52] hey that

[00:34:54] must be

[00:34:54] aliens because

[00:34:55] I don't

[00:34:55] understand it

[00:34:57] that's not

[00:34:57] the case

[00:34:58] they had a

[00:34:58] little more

[00:34:58] common sense

[00:34:59] they were a

[00:34:59] bit more

[00:35:00] grounded

[00:35:00] in that

[00:35:01] time

[00:35:01] they looked

[00:35:02] up and

[00:35:03] they thought

[00:35:04] perhaps

[00:35:05] that's a

[00:35:05] soviet

[00:35:05] device

[00:35:06] perhaps

[00:35:06] that's a

[00:35:07] captured

[00:35:07] nazi

[00:35:08] device

[00:35:09] perhaps

[00:35:09] that's an

[00:35:10] american

[00:35:10] military

[00:35:11] device

[00:35:11] under

[00:35:11] development

[00:35:13] they thought

[00:35:14] in this

[00:35:15] way

[00:35:15] especially

[00:35:15] being just

[00:35:16] the post

[00:35:17] world war

[00:35:17] ii era

[00:35:18] a lot of

[00:35:19] people still

[00:35:19] had war

[00:35:20] nerves

[00:35:21] a lot of

[00:35:22] people probably

[00:35:22] understood

[00:35:23] that there's

[00:35:24] a lot that

[00:35:25] goes on

[00:35:25] behind the

[00:35:26] scenes

[00:35:27] in a war

[00:35:28] scenario

[00:35:30] so they

[00:35:30] still thought

[00:35:31] in this

[00:35:31] way

[00:35:31] they still

[00:35:33] had the

[00:35:33] common sense

[00:35:34] approach

[00:35:34] to this

[00:35:34] so the

[00:35:36] alien card

[00:35:36] wasn't

[00:35:37] the

[00:35:38] popular

[00:35:38] narrative

[00:35:39] at that

[00:35:40] point

[00:35:41] but as

[00:35:42] we see

[00:35:43] this was

[00:35:44] a year

[00:35:44] of high

[00:35:44] strangeness

[00:35:45] and some

[00:35:46] synchromistic

[00:35:47] changes

[00:35:47] were coming

[00:35:48] and the

[00:35:49] changing

[00:35:49] of the

[00:35:49] zeitgeist

[00:35:50] was happening

[00:35:51] so perhaps

[00:35:52] more of

[00:35:53] these things

[00:35:53] became

[00:35:54] more

[00:35:54] acceptable

[00:35:55] as plausible

[00:35:56] explanations

[00:35:57] for things

[00:35:58] as time

[00:35:58] went on

[00:35:59] and people

[00:35:59] took a

[00:36:00] step back

[00:36:00] from common

[00:36:01] sense

[00:36:02] from their

[00:36:03] own

[00:36:03] experience

[00:36:04] using their

[00:36:05] reason

[00:36:06] and their

[00:36:06] own

[00:36:07] experience

[00:36:07] to logic

[00:36:08] out

[00:36:08] certain

[00:36:09] things

[00:36:09] and

[00:36:10] perhaps

[00:36:10] accept

[00:36:11] more

[00:36:11] speculative

[00:36:12] notions

[00:36:12] is this

[00:36:14] what

[00:36:14] occurred

[00:36:15] in the

[00:36:16] zeitgeist

[00:36:17] a shift

[00:36:19] in the

[00:36:20] zeitgeist

[00:36:22] changing

[00:36:23] people's

[00:36:23] opinions

[00:36:24] of certain

[00:36:25] phenomena

[00:36:26] let's read

[00:36:27] on and see

[00:36:28] what happens

[00:36:28] here next

[00:36:29] well the

[00:36:30] army then

[00:36:30] changed its

[00:36:31] story to

[00:36:31] describe the

[00:36:32] Roswell

[00:36:33] debris as

[00:36:33] that of

[00:36:34] a weather

[00:36:34] balloon

[00:36:35] events

[00:36:35] were

[00:36:36] preceding

[00:36:36] apace

[00:36:37] general

[00:36:38] walter

[00:36:38] dorenberger

[00:36:39] the chief

[00:36:40] of the

[00:36:40] nazi

[00:36:40] space

[00:36:41] program

[00:36:41] at

[00:36:42] pinamund

[00:36:42] and later

[00:36:43] at

[00:36:43] mittelwork

[00:36:44] at

[00:36:45] nordhausen

[00:36:45] and responsible

[00:36:47] for the

[00:36:47] deaths of

[00:36:48] thousands

[00:36:48] of

[00:36:49] concentration

[00:36:49] camp

[00:36:50] inmates

[00:36:50] as

[00:36:50] slave

[00:36:51] laborers

[00:36:51] is sent

[00:36:52] to write

[00:36:53] air force

[00:36:53] base

[00:36:54] as the

[00:36:54] roswell

[00:36:55] debris

[00:36:55] is being

[00:36:55] shipped

[00:36:56] there

[00:36:56] dorenberger

[00:36:57] and

[00:36:58] werner

[00:36:58] von

[00:36:58] braun

[00:36:59] both

[00:37:00] of whom

[00:37:00] initial

[00:37:01] cic

[00:37:01] reports

[00:37:02] describe

[00:37:03] as

[00:37:03] ardent

[00:37:04] nazis

[00:37:04] have

[00:37:05] been

[00:37:05] forgiven

[00:37:06] their

[00:37:06] past

[00:37:06] sins

[00:37:07] by

[00:37:07] the

[00:37:07] army

[00:37:08] and

[00:37:08] are

[00:37:08] brought

[00:37:09] to

[00:37:09] the

[00:37:09] united

[00:37:09] states

[00:37:10] under

[00:37:10] operation

[00:37:11] overcast

[00:37:11] renamed

[00:37:12] paperclip

[00:37:14] much

[00:37:15] to the

[00:37:15] irritation

[00:37:15] of

[00:37:16] nuremberg

[00:37:17] prosecutors

[00:37:17] they are

[00:37:18] now

[00:37:19] in a

[00:37:19] position

[00:37:20] to review

[00:37:20] the

[00:37:21] roswell

[00:37:21] wreckage

[00:37:22] gonna

[00:37:22] pause

[00:37:23] for a

[00:37:23] moment

[00:37:23] here

[00:37:23] folks

[00:37:24] another

[00:37:25] little

[00:37:26] fact

[00:37:26] here

[00:37:26] that

[00:37:27] most

[00:37:27] probably

[00:37:28] didn't

[00:37:28] know

[00:37:28] this

[00:37:29] was

[00:37:29] something

[00:37:30] that

[00:37:30] has

[00:37:30] escaped

[00:37:31] me

[00:37:31] until

[00:37:31] recently

[00:37:32] operation

[00:37:33] paperclip

[00:37:34] was renamed

[00:37:35] from

[00:37:35] a prior

[00:37:36] operation

[00:37:37] or a

[00:37:38] prior

[00:37:38] iteration

[00:37:38] of the

[00:37:39] same

[00:37:39] operation

[00:37:39] called

[00:37:40] operation

[00:37:40] overcast

[00:37:43] advanced

[00:37:44] from

[00:37:45] overcast

[00:37:46] to

[00:37:47] paperclip

[00:37:47] O

[00:37:48] to

[00:37:49] P

[00:37:49] and

[00:37:50] of course

[00:37:50] they succeed

[00:37:51] one another

[00:37:51] in the

[00:37:51] alphabet

[00:37:52] right

[00:37:52] so it's

[00:37:53] a step

[00:37:54] forward

[00:37:54] it's

[00:37:55] a

[00:37:55] shifting

[00:37:55] this is

[00:37:56] a

[00:37:56] subtle

[00:37:57] cue

[00:37:57] of

[00:37:58] the

[00:37:58] shifting

[00:38:01] of

[00:38:01] things

[00:38:02] if you

[00:38:02] want to

[00:38:03] look at

[00:38:03] the

[00:38:03] synchromystic

[00:38:04] tell

[00:38:04] there

[00:38:04] and

[00:38:05] of course

[00:38:05] the

[00:38:05] intelligence

[00:38:06] agencies

[00:38:07] they're

[00:38:07] all about

[00:38:08] these

[00:38:08] types

[00:38:08] of

[00:38:09] subtle

[00:38:09] shifts

[00:38:09] so

[00:38:11] we

[00:38:15] and

[00:38:16] it

[00:38:16] says

[00:38:16] much

[00:38:16] to

[00:38:16] the

[00:38:16] annoyance

[00:38:18] of

[00:38:19] the

[00:38:19] Nuremberg

[00:38:19] prosecutors

[00:38:20] because

[00:38:20] they

[00:38:21] did

[00:38:21] take

[00:38:21] in

[00:38:22] many

[00:38:22] of

[00:38:22] these

[00:38:23] ardent

[00:38:23] Nazis

[00:38:25] von

[00:38:25] Braun

[00:38:26] is a

[00:38:26] perfect

[00:38:26] example

[00:38:27] of

[00:38:27] this

[00:38:27] and

[00:38:32] I

[00:38:32] think

[00:38:33] there's

[00:38:33] an

[00:38:33] awful

[00:38:33] lot

[00:38:34] that

[00:38:34] happened

[00:38:34] behind

[00:38:35] the

[00:38:35] scenes

[00:38:35] during

[00:38:36] the

[00:38:36] war

[00:38:36] that

[00:38:37] we

[00:38:37] have

[00:38:37] not

[00:38:37] been

[00:38:37] told

[00:38:38] but

[00:38:39] at

[00:38:39] any

[00:38:39] rate

[00:38:39] these

[00:38:40] two

[00:38:40] are

[00:38:41] now

[00:38:41] in

[00:38:41] a

[00:38:41] position

[00:38:41] to

[00:38:41] review

[00:38:42] the

[00:38:42] Roswell

[00:38:42] wreckage

[00:38:43] at

[00:38:44] the

[00:38:44] same

[00:38:44] time

[00:38:44] the

[00:38:45] same

[00:38:53] James

[00:38:57] Forrestal

[00:38:57] is

[00:38:58] named

[00:38:58] as

[00:38:59] the

[00:38:59] first

[00:38:59] U.S.

[00:39:00] of

[00:39:00] Defense

[00:39:01] he

[00:39:01] will

[00:39:02] not

[00:39:02] last

[00:39:02] long

[00:39:03] if

[00:39:05] you've

[00:39:06] never

[00:39:06] heard

[00:39:06] the

[00:39:07] story

[00:39:07] of

[00:39:08] James

[00:39:08] Forrestal

[00:39:09] and

[00:39:10] what

[00:39:10] allegedly

[00:39:10] happened

[00:39:11] to

[00:39:11] him

[00:39:11] after

[00:39:12] approaching

[00:39:13] this

[00:39:14] UFO

[00:39:15] topic

[00:39:15] this

[00:39:16] subject

[00:39:16] of

[00:39:16] flying

[00:39:17] saucers

[00:39:17] that

[00:39:18] is

[00:39:19] an

[00:39:19] interesting

[00:39:19] story

[00:39:20] for

[00:39:20] another

[00:39:20] day

[00:39:21] that

[00:39:21] perhaps

[00:39:21] will

[00:39:22] tell

[00:39:24] hugely

[00:39:25] important

[00:39:26] as

[00:39:27] well

[00:39:28] to

[00:39:29] this

[00:39:30] field

[00:39:30] of

[00:39:30] research

[00:39:31] if

[00:39:31] you're

[00:39:31] researching

[00:39:32] the

[00:39:32] UFO

[00:39:33] phenomenon

[00:39:33] you've

[00:39:34] probably

[00:39:34] heard

[00:39:35] Forrestal's

[00:39:35] name

[00:39:36] mentioned

[00:39:36] once

[00:39:40] again

[00:39:40] part

[00:39:40] of

[00:39:40] the

[00:39:40] high

[00:39:41] strangeness

[00:39:42] of

[00:39:42] the

[00:39:42] year

[00:39:42] 1947

[00:39:43] let's

[00:39:44] continue

[00:39:45] on

[00:39:45] though

[00:39:45] because

[00:39:45] I

[00:39:45] don't

[00:39:46] want

[00:39:46] to

[00:39:46] get

[00:39:46] side

[00:39:46] trailed

[00:39:48] meanwhile

[00:39:49] Kenneth

[00:39:50] Arnold

[00:39:50] arranges

[00:39:51] to meet

[00:39:51] Harold

[00:39:52] Dahl

[00:39:52] in

[00:39:52] Tacoma

[00:39:53] Washington

[00:39:53] at

[00:39:54] the

[00:39:54] request

[00:39:54] of

[00:39:55] Raymond

[00:39:55] Palmer

[00:39:56] gonna

[00:39:56] pause

[00:39:56] for a

[00:39:57] moment

[00:39:57] here

[00:39:57] folks

[00:39:57] no

[00:39:58] kidding

[00:39:58] so

[00:39:59] now

[00:39:59] Palmer

[00:39:59] the

[00:40:00] science

[00:40:01] fiction

[00:40:01] writer

[00:40:03] guy

[00:40:04] from the

[00:40:04] magazine

[00:40:04] that's

[00:40:05] friends

[00:40:05] with

[00:40:05] Chrisman

[00:40:06] wants

[00:40:07] Kenneth

[00:40:07] Arnold

[00:40:07] to

[00:40:07] meet

[00:40:08] to

[00:40:09] meet

[00:40:14] let's

[00:40:14] read

[00:40:14] on

[00:40:15] here

[00:40:15] the

[00:40:16] date

[00:40:16] is

[00:40:17] set

[00:40:17] for

[00:40:17] July

[00:40:17] 30

[00:40:18] 1947

[00:40:18] during

[00:40:20] the

[00:40:20] flight

[00:40:20] to

[00:40:20] Tacoma

[00:40:21] on

[00:40:21] July

[00:40:22] 29

[00:40:22] Arnold

[00:40:23] sees

[00:40:23] yet

[00:40:24] another

[00:40:24] squadron

[00:40:25] of

[00:40:25] UFOs

[00:40:26] this

[00:40:26] time

[00:40:27] nearly

[00:40:27] two

[00:40:28] dozen

[00:40:28] of

[00:40:28] them

[00:40:29] and

[00:40:29] very

[00:40:29] small

[00:40:30] compared

[00:40:30] to

[00:40:30] the

[00:40:30] first

[00:40:31] squadron

[00:40:31] less

[00:40:32] than

[00:40:32] a

[00:40:37] film

[00:40:37] them

[00:40:38] but

[00:40:38] the

[00:40:38] film

[00:40:38] only

[00:40:39] shows

[00:40:39] some

[00:40:40] small

[00:40:40] specs

[00:40:40] and

[00:40:41] is

[00:40:41] disappointing

[00:40:41] as

[00:40:42] evidence

[00:40:42] gonna

[00:40:43] pause

[00:40:43] for a

[00:40:43] moment

[00:40:43] there

[00:40:44] folks

[00:40:44] and

[00:40:45] this

[00:40:45] is

[00:40:45] something

[00:40:45] most

[00:40:46] people

[00:40:46] also

[00:40:46] don't

[00:40:47] know

[00:40:47] Arnold

[00:40:48] allegedly

[00:40:48] had

[00:40:49] a

[00:40:49] second

[00:40:50] encounter

[00:40:50] with

[00:40:51] multiple

[00:40:51] UFOs

[00:40:52] in

[00:40:52] a

[00:40:52] flight

[00:40:54] once

[00:40:54] again

[00:40:55] to

[00:40:55] meet

[00:40:55] another

[00:40:56] guy

[00:40:56] that

[00:40:56] had

[00:40:56] encounters

[00:40:57] with

[00:40:57] UFOs

[00:40:58] and

[00:40:59] here

[00:40:59] we

[00:41:00] go

[00:41:00] round

[00:41:00] right

[00:41:01] so

[00:41:02] these

[00:41:02] were

[00:41:02] really

[00:41:03] small

[00:41:03] UFOs

[00:41:05] these

[00:41:07] would

[00:41:08] have

[00:41:08] been

[00:41:09] probably

[00:41:09] roughly

[00:41:10] the

[00:41:10] size

[00:41:10] of

[00:41:10] what

[00:41:11] we

[00:41:11] would

[00:41:11] consider

[00:41:11] to

[00:41:12] be

[00:41:12] oh

[00:41:14] I

[00:41:14] don't

[00:41:14] know

[00:41:14] early

[00:41:14] drones

[00:41:15] or

[00:41:15] UAVs

[00:41:16] of

[00:41:16] sorts

[00:41:18] and

[00:41:19] remember

[00:41:20] there

[00:41:21] was

[00:41:21] likely

[00:41:22] UAVs

[00:41:23] or

[00:41:23] drones

[00:41:23] developed

[00:41:25] during

[00:41:26] World

[00:41:26] War

[00:41:27] II

[00:41:27] this

[00:41:28] has

[00:41:28] been

[00:41:28] recorded

[00:41:30] by

[00:41:30] some

[00:41:31] who

[00:41:31] explore

[00:41:32] these

[00:41:32] avenues

[00:41:32] of

[00:41:32] thought

[00:41:34] and

[00:41:34] perhaps

[00:41:35] that's

[00:41:36] what

[00:41:36] he

[00:41:36] saw

[00:41:37] but

[00:41:38] once

[00:41:38] again

[00:41:39] we

[00:41:39] have

[00:41:39] very

[00:41:39] scant

[00:41:40] evidence

[00:41:40] about

[00:41:41] this

[00:41:41] but

[00:41:41] isn't

[00:41:42] that

[00:41:42] a

[00:41:42] strange

[00:41:42] coincidence

[00:41:43] once

[00:41:44] again

[00:41:45] let's

[00:41:46] read

[00:41:46] on

[00:41:46] once

[00:41:47] arrived

[00:42:48] in

[00:42:48] in

[00:42:48] in

[00:42:49] certain

[00:42:49] directions

[00:42:49] here

[00:42:50] and

[00:42:50] we

[00:42:50] have

[00:42:50] all

[00:42:51] this

[00:42:51] mystery

[00:42:51] surrounding

[00:42:52] it

[00:42:52] complete

[00:42:52] with

[00:42:53] men

[00:42:53] in

[00:42:53] black

[00:42:53] and

[00:42:54] booked

[00:42:54] hotel

[00:42:55] rooms

[00:42:55] that

[00:42:56] somebody

[00:42:56] has

[00:42:57] no

[00:42:57] idea

[00:42:57] who

[00:42:57] paid

[00:42:58] for

[00:42:58] it

[00:42:58] or

[00:42:58] who

[00:42:58] arranged

[00:42:59] the

[00:42:59] whole

[00:42:59] thing

[00:42:59] amazing

[00:44:00] help

[00:44:01] protect

[00:44:01] it

[00:44:01] from

[00:44:02] unspecified

[00:44:03] enemies

[00:44:03] the letter

[00:44:05] writer

[00:44:05] was

[00:44:05] anonymous

[00:44:06] and

[00:44:06] one

[00:44:07] can't

[00:44:07] help

[00:44:07] wondering

[00:44:08] if

[00:44:08] chrisman

[00:44:08] was

[00:44:09] behind

[00:44:09] this

[00:44:09] as well

[00:44:10] gonna

[00:44:10] pause

[00:44:11] for a

[00:44:11] moment

[00:44:11] here

[00:44:11] folks

[00:44:12] so

[00:44:12] now

[00:44:13] we

[00:44:13] have

[00:44:13] the

[00:44:13] introduction

[00:44:14] of

[00:44:14] the

[00:44:14] idea

[00:44:15] of

[00:44:15] aliens

[00:44:16] into

[00:44:17] the

[00:44:17] picture

[00:44:18] here

[00:44:20] aliens

[00:44:22] coming

[00:44:22] to see

[00:44:23] what's

[00:44:23] going

[00:44:23] on

[00:44:24] with

[00:44:24] US

[00:44:24] atomic

[00:44:25] explosions

[00:44:26] and

[00:44:27] protecting

[00:44:27] us

[00:44:27] from

[00:44:28] some

[00:44:29] unspecified

[00:44:30] enemies

[00:44:32] so

[00:44:33] here

[00:44:33] we

[00:44:33] go

[00:44:35] as

[00:44:36] early

[00:44:36] as

[00:44:36] 1947

[00:44:37] this

[00:44:37] stuff

[00:44:38] is

[00:44:38] beginning

[00:44:38] to

[00:44:38] enter

[00:44:39] in

[00:44:39] and

[00:44:40] of

[00:44:40] course

[00:44:40] we

[00:44:41] have

[00:44:41] stories

[00:44:41] going

[00:44:41] back

[00:44:42] before

[00:44:42] that

[00:44:42] science

[00:44:43] fiction

[00:44:43] stories

[00:44:46] equating

[00:44:46] the

[00:44:46] same

[00:44:47] types

[00:44:47] of

[00:44:48] reasoning

[00:44:48] and

[00:44:48] events

[00:44:49] to

[00:44:49] things

[00:44:49] as

[00:44:50] well

[00:44:50] minus

[00:44:51] the

[00:44:51] atomic

[00:44:51] bomb

[00:44:52] thing

[00:44:52] of

[00:44:52] course

[00:44:54] but

[00:44:56] it

[00:44:57] is

[00:44:57] what

[00:44:57] it

[00:44:57] is

[00:44:58] and

[00:44:58] this

[00:44:58] is

[00:44:58] how

[00:44:58] much

[00:44:59] of

[00:44:59] the

[00:44:59] mythology

[00:45:00] has

[00:45:00] come

[00:45:01] about

[00:45:02] now

[00:45:02] but

[00:45:03] let's

[00:45:03] go ahead

[00:45:03] and

[00:45:04] read

[00:45:04] on

[00:45:05] at

[00:45:05] this

[00:45:06] point

[00:45:06] Arnold

[00:45:06] felt

[00:45:07] he

[00:45:07] was

[00:45:07] being

[00:45:07] had

[00:45:08] the

[00:45:08] whole

[00:45:09] story

[00:45:09] sounded

[00:45:09] very

[00:45:10] suspicious

[00:45:10] very

[00:45:11] artificial

[00:45:11] he

[00:45:12] asked

[00:45:12] a

[00:45:13] friend

[00:45:13] another

[00:45:13] pilot

[00:45:14] United

[00:45:14] Airlines

[00:45:14] Captain

[00:45:15] E.J.

[00:45:16] Smith

[00:45:16] for his

[00:45:17] take

[00:45:17] on the

[00:45:17] affair

[00:45:18] they

[00:45:18] came

[00:45:19] to

[00:45:19] the

[00:45:19] conclusion

[00:45:19] that

[00:45:20] either

[00:45:20] the

[00:45:20] story

[00:45:20] was

[00:45:21] a

[00:45:21] simple

[00:45:22] hoax

[00:45:22] or

[00:45:23] it

[00:45:23] was

[00:45:23] part

[00:45:23] of

[00:45:23] an

[00:45:23] intelligence

[00:45:24] operation

[00:45:25] they

[00:45:25] distrusted

[00:45:26] Crisman

[00:45:27] completely

[00:45:27] and felt

[00:45:28] that he

[00:45:28] was trying

[00:45:28] to

[00:45:29] control

[00:45:29] the

[00:45:29] investigation

[00:45:30] either

[00:45:31] Crisman

[00:45:31] was a

[00:45:32] hoaxer

[00:45:32] or a

[00:45:33] spy

[00:45:33] either

[00:45:34] way

[00:45:34] Arnold

[00:45:34] and

[00:45:35] Smith

[00:45:35] felt

[00:45:35] that

[00:45:36] he

[00:45:36] had

[00:45:36] nothing

[00:45:37] to

[00:45:37] contribute

[00:45:38] gonna

[00:45:38] pause

[00:45:39] for a

[00:45:39] moment

[00:45:39] here

[00:45:39] folks

[00:45:40] so

[00:45:41] is

[00:45:41] this

[00:45:41] co-intel

[00:45:42] pro

[00:45:42] going

[00:45:43] on

[00:45:43] is

[00:45:43] this

[00:45:44] counter

[00:45:44] intelligence

[00:45:44] was

[00:45:45] Arnold

[00:45:45] counter

[00:45:46] intelligence

[00:45:46] and

[00:45:47] Crisman

[00:45:48] was

[00:45:48] also

[00:45:49] counter

[00:45:49] intelligence

[00:45:50] both

[00:45:50] working

[00:45:51] for

[00:45:51] perhaps

[00:45:52] opposite

[00:45:53] sides

[00:45:53] or

[00:45:53] the

[00:45:53] same

[00:45:54] sides

[00:45:54] or

[00:45:54] special

[00:45:55] interest

[00:45:55] groups

[00:45:57] Crisman

[00:45:57] was an

[00:45:58] avowed

[00:45:58] OSS

[00:45:59] officer

[00:45:59] he

[00:46:00] was a

[00:46:00] former

[00:46:00] OSS

[00:46:01] officer

[00:46:02] the

[00:46:02] precursor

[00:46:02] of

[00:46:02] the

[00:46:03] CIA

[00:46:03] and

[00:46:04] of

[00:46:04] course

[00:46:05] Arnold

[00:46:05] didn't

[00:46:06] trust

[00:46:06] him

[00:46:07] smart

[00:46:08] guy

[00:46:08] not

[00:46:11] was

[00:46:12] he

[00:46:12] also

[00:46:14] involved

[00:46:14] with

[00:46:15] intelligence

[00:46:15] let's

[00:46:16] read

[00:46:17] on

[00:46:17] and

[00:46:17] see

[00:46:17] what's

[00:46:17] what

[00:46:18] here

[00:46:19] then

[00:46:20] as if

[00:46:20] in

[00:46:20] confirmation

[00:46:21] of

[00:46:21] their

[00:46:21] suspicions

[00:46:22] it

[00:46:22] was

[00:46:22] reported

[00:46:22] that

[00:46:23] United

[00:46:24] Press

[00:46:24] International

[00:46:25] had

[00:46:25] received

[00:46:25] verbatim

[00:46:26] transcripts

[00:46:27] of their

[00:46:27] interviews

[00:46:28] and

[00:46:28] discussions

[00:46:28] the

[00:46:29] ones

[00:46:29] held

[00:46:30] at

[00:46:30] Arnold's

[00:46:30] mysteriously

[00:46:31] booked

[00:46:31] hotel

[00:46:32] room

[00:46:32] suddenly

[00:46:33] it

[00:46:41] in

[00:46:41] advance

[00:46:42] and

[00:46:42] bugged

[00:46:42] the

[00:46:43] information

[00:46:43] he

[00:46:44] extracted

[00:46:44] from

[00:46:44] Dahl

[00:46:45] in

[00:46:45] his

[00:46:45] conversations

[00:46:46] with

[00:46:46] Smith

[00:46:46] were

[00:46:47] sent

[00:46:47] to

[00:46:48] the

[00:46:48] news

[00:46:48] agency

[00:46:49] for

[00:46:49] what

[00:46:49] purpose

[00:46:50] can

[00:46:50] only

[00:46:50] be

[00:46:51] imagined

[00:46:51] it

[00:46:52] seemed

[00:46:52] as if

[00:46:53] there

[00:46:53] was

[00:46:53] an

[00:46:53] operation

[00:46:54] underway

[00:46:54] to

[00:46:55] discredit

[00:46:55] the

[00:46:56] Maury

[00:46:56] Island

[00:46:56] UFO

[00:46:57] report

[00:46:57] and

[00:46:58] to

[00:46:58] do

[00:46:59] that

[00:46:59] with

[00:47:00] Kenneth

[00:47:00] Arnold

[00:47:01] a

[00:47:01] much

[00:47:01] more

[00:47:02] credible

[00:47:02] witness

[00:47:02] than

[00:47:03] either

[00:47:03] Dahl

[00:47:03] or

[00:47:04] Chrisman

[00:47:04] two

[00:47:05] birds

[00:47:05] with

[00:47:06] one

[00:47:06] stone

[00:47:06] perhaps

[00:47:08] gonna

[00:47:09] pause

[00:47:11] now we

[00:47:11] have

[00:47:12] some

[00:47:12] more

[00:47:12] high

[00:47:12] strangeness

[00:47:13] and

[00:47:13] intrigue

[00:47:14] coming

[00:47:14] into

[00:47:14] play

[00:47:16] the

[00:47:17] spy

[00:47:17] games

[00:47:18] if you

[00:47:19] will

[00:47:19] so

[00:47:20] who

[00:47:20] was

[00:47:21] trying

[00:47:21] to

[00:47:21] discredit

[00:47:22] who

[00:47:23] and

[00:47:24] what

[00:47:25] are they

[00:47:25] trying

[00:47:25] to

[00:47:25] discredit

[00:47:26] them

[00:47:26] about

[00:47:26] and

[00:47:28] of

[00:47:28] course

[00:47:28] this

[00:47:28] ties

[00:47:28] back

[00:47:29] to

[00:47:29] the

[00:47:29] Maury

[00:47:29] Island

[00:47:30] incident

[00:47:32] which

[00:47:32] doesn't

[00:47:33] get

[00:47:33] much

[00:47:34] replay

[00:47:35] value

[00:47:35] today

[00:47:36] like

[00:47:36] the

[00:47:36] Roswell

[00:47:37] event

[00:47:37] did

[00:47:39] so

[00:47:39] you

[00:47:39] gotta

[00:47:40] wonder

[00:47:42] what

[00:47:42] happened

[00:47:43] here

[00:47:45] what

[00:47:45] really

[00:47:46] happened

[00:47:46] and

[00:47:47] how

[00:47:48] much

[00:47:48] was

[00:47:48] contrivance

[00:47:49] and

[00:47:49] how

[00:47:49] much

[00:47:50] was

[00:47:50] manipulated

[00:47:51] and

[00:47:52] how

[00:47:52] much

[00:47:52] was

[00:47:53] real

[00:47:53] events

[00:47:55] let's

[00:47:56] read on

[00:47:56] at

[00:47:57] this

[00:47:57] point

[00:47:57] Arnold

[00:47:58] was

[00:47:58] determined

[00:47:58] to

[00:47:59] bring

[00:47:59] in

[00:47:59] military

[00:48:00] intelligence

[00:48:01] gonna

[00:48:01] pause

[00:48:01] for a

[00:48:02] moment

[00:48:02] here

[00:48:02] folks

[00:48:02] no

[00:48:03] kidding

[00:48:04] if

[00:48:05] nothing

[00:48:05] else

[00:48:06] it

[00:48:06] would

[00:48:06] eliminate

[00:48:07] once and

[00:48:07] for all

[00:48:08] the possibility

[00:48:08] that the

[00:48:09] Maury Island

[00:48:10] affair

[00:48:10] was some

[00:48:11] kind of

[00:48:11] espionage

[00:48:12] plot

[00:48:12] thus reducing

[00:48:13] it to the

[00:48:14] level of

[00:48:14] a simple

[00:48:15] minded

[00:48:16] hoax

[00:48:16] by

[00:48:16] Crisman

[00:48:17] and

[00:48:17] Dahl

[00:48:17] Crisman

[00:48:18] seemed to

[00:48:19] welcome

[00:48:19] the idea

[00:48:20] of bringing

[00:48:21] in

[00:48:21] the

[00:48:21] army

[00:48:22] Dahl

[00:48:23] was

[00:48:23] still

[00:48:23] frightened

[00:48:23] from

[00:48:24] his

[00:48:24] meeting

[00:48:25] with

[00:48:25] the

[00:48:25] man

[00:48:25] in

[00:48:25] black

[00:48:26] and

[00:48:26] did

[00:48:26] not

[00:48:26] want

[00:48:27] to

[00:48:27] cooperate

[00:48:28] no

[00:48:29] matter

[00:48:29] Arnold

[00:48:30] called

[00:48:30] the

[00:48:30] men

[00:48:31] who

[00:48:31] had

[00:48:31] debriefed

[00:48:32] him

[00:48:32] after

[00:48:32] his

[00:48:33] own

[00:48:33] UFO

[00:48:34] sighting

[00:48:34] Lieutenant

[00:48:35] Brown

[00:48:35] and

[00:48:36] Captain

[00:48:36] Davidson

[00:48:37] they

[00:48:37] agreed

[00:48:38] to

[00:48:38] fly

[00:48:38] out

[00:48:38] to

[00:48:39] Tacoma

[00:48:39] immediately

[00:48:39] to see

[00:48:40] what

[00:48:40] Arnold

[00:48:41] had

[00:48:41] they

[00:48:42] arrived

[00:48:42] later

[00:48:43] that

[00:48:43] day

[00:48:43] talked

[00:48:43] with

[00:48:44] both

[00:48:44] Arnold

[00:48:44] and

[00:48:45] Smith

[00:48:45] seemed

[00:48:46] to

[00:48:46] dismiss

[00:48:46] the

[00:48:47] whole

[00:48:47] affair

[00:48:47] as a

[00:48:48] hoax

[00:48:48] and

[00:48:48] returned

[00:48:49] to

[00:48:49] the

[00:48:49] airport

[00:48:50] for

[00:48:50] their

[00:48:50] ride

[00:48:51] home

[00:48:51] Arnold

[00:48:52] was

[00:48:52] nonplussed

[00:48:53] it

[00:48:54] appeared

[00:48:54] to

[00:48:54] him

[00:48:55] as if

[00:48:55] they

[00:48:55] had

[00:48:56] already

[00:48:56] dismissed

[00:48:56] the

[00:48:57] story

[00:48:57] in

[00:48:57] advance

[00:48:57] of

[00:48:58] their

[00:48:58] arrival

[00:48:58] if

[00:48:59] so

[00:49:00] then

[00:49:00] why

[00:49:00] bother

[00:49:01] coming

[00:49:01] out

[00:49:01] at

[00:49:02] all

[00:49:02] at

[00:49:03] the

[00:49:03] airport

[00:49:03] an

[00:49:04] odd

[00:49:04] thing

[00:49:04] happened

[00:49:05] one

[00:49:05] which

[00:49:06] has

[00:49:06] plagued

[00:49:06] UFO

[00:49:07] researchers

[00:49:07] for

[00:49:08] years

[00:49:09] Chrisman

[00:49:10] the

[00:49:10] man

[00:49:10] the

[00:49:11] intelligence

[00:49:11] officers

[00:49:12] seemed

[00:49:12] to

[00:49:12] think

[00:49:12] was

[00:49:13] nothing

[00:49:13] more

[00:49:13] than

[00:49:13] an

[00:49:14] oddball

[00:49:14] hoaxer

[00:49:15] turned

[00:49:15] up

[00:49:15] at

[00:49:16] the

[00:49:16] last

[00:49:16] minute

[00:49:16] and

[00:49:17] gave

[00:49:17] the

[00:49:17] men

[00:49:17] a

[00:49:17] heavy

[00:49:18] box

[00:49:18] which

[00:49:19] he

[00:49:19] claimed

[00:49:19] was

[00:49:20] filled

[00:49:20] with

[00:49:20] the

[00:49:21] debris

[00:49:21] from

[00:49:21] the

[00:49:21] damaged

[00:49:22] UFO

[00:49:22] to

[00:49:23] Arnold

[00:49:24] who

[00:49:24] was

[00:49:24] there

[00:49:25] the

[00:49:25] contents

[00:49:26] looked

[00:49:26] like

[00:49:26] a

[00:49:26] bunch

[00:49:27] of

[00:49:27] rocks

[00:49:27] the

[00:49:28] men

[00:49:28] stowed

[00:49:28] the

[00:49:29] box

[00:49:29] in

[00:49:29] the

[00:49:29] trunk

[00:49:30] of

[00:49:30] their

[00:49:30] car

[00:49:30] and

[00:49:30] left

[00:49:31] for

[00:49:31] the

[00:49:31] airport

[00:49:31] catching

[00:49:32] their

[00:49:32] flight

[00:49:33] they

[00:49:34] never

[00:49:34] made

[00:49:34] it

[00:49:34] back

[00:49:35] to

[00:49:35] base

[00:49:35] gonna

[00:49:36] pause

[00:49:36] for

[00:49:36] a

[00:49:36] moment

[00:49:37] here

[00:49:37] folks

[00:49:37] so

[00:49:38] now

[00:49:38] more

[00:49:39] high

[00:49:39] strangeness

[00:49:40] comes

[00:49:40] into

[00:49:40] play

[00:49:41] and

[00:49:41] you

[00:49:41] have

[00:49:41] to

[00:49:41] wonder

[00:49:44] what

[00:49:44] was

[00:49:45] going

[00:49:45] on

[00:49:45] behind

[00:49:46] the

[00:49:46] scenes

[00:49:47] within

[00:49:47] the

[00:49:48] auspices

[00:49:48] of

[00:49:49] the

[00:49:49] intelligence

[00:49:50] agencies

[00:49:51] the

[00:49:51] former

[00:49:51] OSS

[00:49:53] Crisman

[00:49:55] what

[00:49:55] morphed

[00:49:56] into

[00:49:56] the

[00:49:56] CIA

[00:49:56] and

[00:49:57] of

[00:49:57] course

[00:49:58] army

[00:49:58] intelligence

[00:49:59] and

[00:49:59] each

[00:49:59] branch

[00:50:00] of

[00:50:00] military

[00:50:00] had

[00:50:01] their

[00:50:01] own

[00:50:01] intelligence

[00:50:01] units

[00:50:04] and

[00:50:04] there's

[00:50:05] all

[00:50:05] this

[00:50:05] competition

[00:50:06] that's

[00:50:06] always

[00:50:07] been

[00:50:07] recorded

[00:50:08] within

[00:50:08] the

[00:50:09] auspices

[00:50:09] of

[00:50:09] these

[00:50:10] military

[00:50:10] intelligence

[00:50:11] groups

[00:50:11] especially

[00:50:12] between

[00:50:13] the

[00:50:13] army

[00:50:13] and

[00:50:14] the

[00:50:14] navy

[00:50:15] it's

[00:50:16] a

[00:50:16] well

[00:50:16] known

[00:50:16] thing

[00:50:16] to

[00:50:17] UFO

[00:50:17] researchers

[00:50:18] there's

[00:50:18] always

[00:50:18] been

[00:50:18] contention

[00:50:19] between

[00:50:19] the

[00:50:20] two

[00:50:20] but

[00:50:21] let's

[00:50:21] go ahead

[00:50:22] and

[00:50:22] continue

[00:50:22] reading

[00:50:22] and

[00:50:23] see

[00:50:23] what

[00:50:23] is

[00:50:24] next

[00:50:24] here

[00:50:26] both

[00:50:26] Davidson

[00:50:27] and

[00:50:27] Brown

[00:50:27] were

[00:50:27] killed

[00:50:28] the

[00:50:28] enlisted

[00:50:29] men

[00:50:29] on

[00:50:29] board

[00:50:30] parachuted

[00:50:30] to

[00:50:30] safety

[00:50:31] after

[00:50:31] the

[00:50:32] left

[00:50:32] engine

[00:50:33] caught

[00:50:33] fire

[00:50:33] according

[00:50:34] to

[00:50:34] the

[00:50:34] report

[00:50:35] of

[00:50:35] one

[00:50:35] of

[00:50:35] the

[00:50:35] survivors

[00:50:36] and

[00:50:36] the

[00:50:37] two

[00:50:37] officers

[00:50:37] remained

[00:50:38] with

[00:50:38] the

[00:50:38] aircraft

[00:50:39] for a

[00:50:39] full

[00:50:39] 10

[00:50:40] minutes

[00:50:40] before

[00:50:40] the

[00:50:40] B-52

[00:50:41] bomber

[00:50:41] crashed

[00:50:42] to

[00:50:42] and

[00:50:42] no

[00:50:43] one

[00:50:43] was

[00:50:44] in

[00:50:44] the

[00:50:47] plane

[00:50:48] and

[00:50:48] not

[00:50:48] parachuted

[00:50:49] themselves

[00:50:50] or

[00:50:50] why

[00:50:51] they

[00:50:51] did

[00:50:51] not

[00:50:51] radio

[00:50:52] a

[00:50:52] distress

[00:50:53] call

[00:50:53] the

[00:50:54] emergency

[00:50:54] firefighting

[00:50:55] equipment

[00:50:55] was

[00:50:56] inoperable

[00:50:56] so there

[00:50:57] was no

[00:50:57] chance

[00:50:58] to

[00:50:58] save

[00:50:58] the

[00:50:59] plane

[00:50:59] according

[00:51:00] to

[00:51:00] Major

[00:51:00] George

[00:51:01] Sander

[00:51:01] of

[00:51:01] the

[00:51:01] U.S.

[00:51:02] Army

[00:51:02] Air

[00:51:02] Corps

[00:51:02] the

[00:51:03] plane

[00:51:03] was

[00:51:03] carrying

[00:51:04] classified

[00:51:04] material

[00:51:05] was

[00:51:07] that

[00:51:07] a

[00:51:07] reference

[00:51:08] to

[00:51:08] the

[00:51:08] box

[00:51:08] of

[00:51:08] rocks

[00:51:09] carried

[00:51:09] on

[00:51:09] board

[00:51:10] by

[00:51:10] Davidson

[00:51:10] and

[00:51:11] Brown

[00:51:11] one

[00:51:12] of

[00:51:12] the

[00:51:12] men

[00:51:12] involved

[00:51:13] in

[00:51:13] the

[00:51:13] investigation

[00:51:14] of

[00:51:14] UFO

[00:51:14] reports

[00:51:15] in

[00:51:15] the

[00:51:15] American

[00:51:15] Northwest

[00:51:16] that

[00:51:16] year

[00:51:17] was

[00:51:17] none

[00:51:17] other

[00:51:18] than

[00:51:18] FBI

[00:51:19] Special

[00:51:19] Agent

[00:51:20] Guy

[00:51:20] Bannister

[00:51:22] gonna

[00:51:23] pause

[00:51:23] for a

[00:51:23] moment

[00:51:24] here

[00:51:24] folks

[00:51:24] and

[00:51:25] here

[00:51:25] we

[00:51:25] go

[00:51:26] once

[00:51:27] again

[00:51:27] with

[00:51:28] more

[00:51:28] synchromystic

[00:51:29] connections

[00:51:30] let's

[00:51:31] continue

[00:51:31] Guy

[00:51:32] Bannister's

[00:51:32] name

[00:51:33] is

[00:51:33] well

[00:51:33] known

[00:51:33] among

[00:51:33] conspiracy

[00:51:34] aficionados

[00:51:35] as

[00:51:35] another

[00:51:36] one

[00:51:36] of

[00:51:36] the

[00:51:36] men

[00:51:37] implicated

[00:51:38] by

[00:51:38] New

[00:51:38] Orleans

[00:51:39] district

[00:51:39] attorney

[00:51:39] Jim

[00:51:40] Garrison

[00:51:40] in

[00:51:41] the

[00:51:41] Kennedy

[00:51:41] assassination

[00:51:42] gonna

[00:51:43] pause

[00:51:43] for a

[00:51:43] moment

[00:51:43] here

[00:51:44] folks

[00:51:44] it

[00:51:44] never

[00:51:44] ends

[00:51:46] so

[00:51:47] Chrisman

[00:51:48] Guy

[00:51:49] Bannister

[00:51:49] both

[00:51:52] these

[00:51:52] guys

[00:51:55] heavily

[00:51:55] involved

[00:51:56] with

[00:51:56] these

[00:51:57] alleged

[00:51:57] UFO

[00:51:58] incidents

[00:51:58] in

[00:52:00] 1947

[00:52:01] and

[00:52:01] then

[00:52:01] later

[00:52:02] connected

[00:52:03] in

[00:52:04] 1963

[00:52:04] as

[00:52:08] potential

[00:52:09] suspects

[00:52:12] for the

[00:52:13] Kennedy

[00:52:13] assassination

[00:52:16] both

[00:52:17] guys

[00:52:17] known to

[00:52:18] work for

[00:52:18] intelligence

[00:52:19] interesting

[00:52:21] one

[00:52:23] worked

[00:52:23] for the

[00:52:23] FBI

[00:52:24] the other

[00:52:24] for the

[00:52:24] OSS

[00:52:25] strange

[00:52:30] stuff

[00:52:34] let's

[00:52:35] continue

[00:52:35] it was

[00:52:36] Guy

[00:52:36] Bannister

[00:52:36] by this

[00:52:37] time

[00:52:37] a

[00:52:38] former

[00:52:38] FBI

[00:52:38] agent

[00:52:39] who

[00:52:39] rented

[00:52:40] office

[00:52:40] space

[00:52:40] at the

[00:52:41] same

[00:52:41] location

[00:52:41] stamped

[00:52:42] on

[00:52:42] Lee

[00:52:42] Harvey

[00:52:43] Oswald's

[00:52:43] fair

[00:52:44] play

[00:52:44] for

[00:52:45] Cuba

[00:52:45] committee

[00:52:46] flyers

[00:52:46] Bannister

[00:52:48] was running

[00:52:48] an anti

[00:52:49] Castro

[00:52:49] Cuban

[00:52:50] operation

[00:52:50] from

[00:52:51] his

[00:52:51] investigator's

[00:52:52] office

[00:52:52] an

[00:52:52] operation

[00:52:53] that

[00:52:53] attracted

[00:52:54] the

[00:52:54] likes

[00:52:54] of

[00:52:54] former

[00:52:55] Eastern

[00:52:55] Airlines

[00:52:56] pilots

[00:52:56] and

[00:52:57] assassination

[00:52:57] suspect

[00:52:58] David

[00:52:59] Ferry

[00:52:59] Oswald

[00:53:01] was running

[00:53:01] a pro

[00:53:02] Castro

[00:53:02] Cuban

[00:53:03] operation

[00:53:03] from

[00:53:04] the

[00:53:04] same

[00:53:05] address

[00:53:06] an

[00:53:06] anomaly

[00:53:07] that

[00:53:07] could

[00:53:07] only

[00:53:07] be

[00:53:08] explained

[00:53:08] if

[00:53:08] one

[00:53:09] understood

[00:53:09] that

[00:53:10] Bannister

[00:53:10] and

[00:53:10] Oswald

[00:53:11] were

[00:53:11] working

[00:53:12] together

[00:53:12] and

[00:53:13] that

[00:53:13] the

[00:53:13] pro

[00:53:14] Castro

[00:53:14] operation

[00:53:15] was a

[00:53:15] front

[00:53:15] for some

[00:53:16] other

[00:53:16] even more

[00:53:17] nefarious

[00:53:18] purpose

[00:53:18] further

[00:53:19] while

[00:53:20] Bannister

[00:53:20] was

[00:53:20] FBI

[00:53:21] special

[00:53:21] agent

[00:53:22] in

[00:53:22] charge

[00:53:22] of

[00:53:23] the

[00:53:23] Chicago

[00:53:23] field

[00:53:23] office

[00:53:24] during

[00:53:24] World

[00:53:25] War

[00:53:25] II

[00:53:25] one

[00:53:26] of

[00:53:26] his

[00:53:26] FBI

[00:53:27] subordinates

[00:53:28] was

[00:53:28] James

[00:53:28] McCord

[00:53:29] of

[00:53:29] Watergate

[00:53:30] Plummer's

[00:53:31] fame

[00:53:31] and

[00:53:32] another

[00:53:32] was

[00:53:33] Robert

[00:53:33] A.

[00:53:33] Mahew

[00:53:34] the

[00:53:34] man

[00:53:35] who

[00:53:35] would

[00:53:35] later

[00:53:36] become

[00:53:36] head

[00:53:36] of

[00:53:36] his

[00:53:37] own

[00:53:37] investigative

[00:53:37] agency

[00:53:38] and

[00:53:39] an

[00:53:39] employee

[00:53:40] of

[00:53:40] Howard

[00:53:41] Hughes

[00:53:41] the

[00:53:42] man

[00:53:42] whose

[00:53:43] agency

[00:53:43] was

[00:53:43] started

[00:53:44] by

[00:53:44] money

[00:53:45] won

[00:53:45] from

[00:53:45] James

[00:53:47] McInerney

[00:53:48] the

[00:53:49] assistant

[00:53:49] attorney

[00:53:50] general

[00:53:50] who

[00:53:51] was

[00:53:51] involved

[00:53:51] in

[00:53:52] the

[00:53:52] Jack

[00:53:52] Parsons

[00:53:53] investigation

[00:53:54] Mahew

[00:53:55] would

[00:53:55] go

[00:53:56] on

[00:53:56] to

[00:53:56] become

[00:53:56] the

[00:53:57] man

[00:53:57] in

[00:53:57] the

[00:53:57] middle

[00:53:57] between

[00:53:58] the

[00:53:58] CIA

[00:53:59] and

[00:53:59] organized

[00:54:00] crime

[00:54:00] in

[00:54:01] the

[00:54:01] assassination

[00:54:01] plots

[00:54:02] against

[00:54:02] Castro

[00:54:03] going to

[00:54:04] pause

[00:54:04] for a

[00:54:04] moment

[00:54:04] here

[00:54:05] folks

[00:54:05] so

[00:54:05] intelligence

[00:54:06] agency

[00:54:06] intrigue

[00:54:07] right at

[00:54:07] the heart

[00:54:08] of the

[00:54:08] UFO

[00:54:09] phenomenon

[00:54:09] go

[00:54:10] figure

[00:54:12] go

[00:54:12] figure

[00:54:13] let's

[00:54:13] read

[00:54:13] on

[00:54:15] Bannister

[00:54:16] was

[00:54:16] during

[00:54:16] the time

[00:54:17] of the

[00:54:17] Arnold

[00:54:17] sighting

[00:54:18] the

[00:54:18] Maury

[00:54:18] Island

[00:54:19] affair

[00:54:19] and

[00:54:20] Roswell

[00:54:20] an

[00:54:21] FBI

[00:54:21] special

[00:54:22] agent

[00:54:22] assigned

[00:54:23] to

[00:54:23] the

[00:54:23] Butte

[00:54:23] Montana

[00:54:24] field

[00:54:24] office

[00:54:25] which

[00:54:25] had

[00:54:26] responsibility

[00:54:26] for

[00:54:27] several

[00:54:27] western

[00:54:27] states

[00:54:28] including

[00:54:28] Idaho

[00:54:29] where

[00:54:30] Kenneth

[00:54:30] Arnold

[00:54:30] resided

[00:54:31] a

[00:54:32] look

[00:54:32] at

[00:54:32] recently

[00:54:33] declassified

[00:54:33] FBI

[00:54:34] files

[00:54:34] for

[00:54:35] that

[00:54:35] period

[00:54:35] in

[00:54:35] 1947

[00:54:36] show

[00:54:37] a

[00:54:37] number

[00:54:38] of

[00:54:38] telexes

[00:54:39] from

[00:54:39] Bannister

[00:54:40] some

[00:54:40] with

[00:54:41] his

[00:54:41] initials

[00:54:41] WGB

[00:54:42] all

[00:54:43] pertaining

[00:54:44] to

[00:54:44] UFO

[00:54:45] phenomena

[00:54:45] as well

[00:54:46] as

[00:54:46] other

[00:54:46] FBI

[00:54:47] documents

[00:54:47] with

[00:54:48] the

[00:54:48] designation

[00:54:49] security

[00:54:50] matter

[00:54:50] X

[00:54:51] or

[00:54:51] simply

[00:54:53] SMX

[00:54:53] the

[00:54:54] origin

[00:54:55] the

[00:54:55] author

[00:54:55] supposes

[00:54:56] of

[00:54:56] the

[00:54:57] X

[00:54:57] files

[00:54:58] which

[00:54:59] at

[00:54:59] least

[00:54:59] in

[00:54:59] 1947

[00:55:00] did

[00:55:01] exist

[00:55:01] at

[00:55:02] the

[00:55:02] FBI

[00:55:02] and

[00:55:03] was

[00:55:03] concerned

[00:55:04] with

[00:55:04] UFOs

[00:55:05] as

[00:55:05] well

[00:55:06] as

[00:55:06] with

[00:55:06] other

[00:55:07] as

[00:55:08] well

[00:55:08] as

[00:55:08] with

[00:55:08] the

[00:55:08] federal

[00:55:09] investigation

[00:55:09] of

[00:55:10] Wilhelm

[00:55:10] Reich

[00:55:10] the

[00:55:11] pioneer

[00:55:12] psychoanalyst

[00:55:12] whose

[00:55:13] orgone

[00:55:13] therapy

[00:55:14] had run

[00:55:15] afoul of

[00:55:16] the

[00:55:16] medical

[00:55:16] establishment

[00:55:17] and

[00:55:17] who

[00:55:17] himself

[00:55:17] was

[00:55:18] a

[00:55:18] firm

[00:55:18] believer

[00:55:19] in

[00:55:19] the

[00:55:19] existence

[00:55:20] of

[00:55:20] UFOs

[00:55:21] gonna

[00:55:21] pause

[00:55:21] for a

[00:55:22] moment

[00:55:22] here

[00:55:22] folks

[00:55:22] so

[00:55:23] the

[00:55:23] real

[00:55:23] life

[00:55:24] X

[00:55:24] files

[00:55:26] existed

[00:55:27] in

[00:55:27] Guy

[00:55:28] Bannister's

[00:55:29] studies

[00:55:30] here

[00:55:30] in the

[00:55:31] FBI

[00:55:31] field

[00:55:32] office

[00:55:32] in

[00:55:32] Butte

[00:55:33] Montana

[00:55:33] that's

[00:55:34] probably

[00:55:34] where

[00:55:35] the

[00:55:35] term

[00:55:35] X

[00:55:36] files

[00:55:36] came

[00:55:36] from

[00:55:38] interesting

[00:55:39] connections

[00:56:10] the

[00:56:10] time

[00:56:11] to

[00:56:11] to

[00:56:12] things

[00:56:13] that

[00:56:18] happened